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re: I see no way Bama gets in if they lose the SEC championship game and ND, UGA, Michigan and

Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:40 am to
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:40 am to
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Georgia would get left out. The committee will compare our SEC champ game loss to your 36-16 loss at LSU. They will also take Tua's health into consideration. Bottom line is they will chose the 4 best teams, not the 4 most deserving.


The melt would be so epic I am praying for this to happen. It would guarantee the play-off expansion
Posted by StringedInstruments
Member since Oct 2013
18406 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:42 am to
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The college playoffs is about matching up the four best teams.


True until it isn’t.

The playoff committee would be dissolved if they left out one of the blue bloods who won their conference simply because a non-conference winner passed an eye test.

If Bama loses to UGA in the SECCG and the other teams are still rolling, they’ll be left out.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71709 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:46 am to
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You did not answer the question.


Yes I did. You don't have to like the answer for it to be an answer.

If you want to have a conversation, let's do it. First, walk back from being a douchebag Gump and apologize to everyone for being a douchebag Gump.
Posted by TT9
Global warming
Member since Sep 2008
82952 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:48 am to
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Lulz. fricking idiot. The two best teams could be in the same conference. You don't understand logic.

exactly
Posted by Lg
Hayden, Alabama
Member since Jul 2011
6841 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:48 am to
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If you can't win your conference, then by logic, you cannot be one of the best 4 teams.


So Notre Dame should be disqualified automatically. I like it.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71709 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:52 am to
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So Notre Dame should be disqualified automatically.


In the current system, absolutely.

Power 3 champs, then the subjectively best team from the rest.
Posted by JesusQuintana
St Louis
Member since Oct 2013
33366 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 9:55 am to
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The college playoffs is about matching up the four best teams.


It should be about matching up the four most deserving teams. “Best” is way too subjective and actual results should matter
Posted by dallastiger55
Jennings, LA
Member since Jan 2010
27720 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:00 am to
I’m far from a Bama fan, but imo if they dominate for 12 weeks and lose by a FG to a top 5 team they should be in

They are one of the 4 best teams. Who cares when you lose?

So OU should get in for losing to a 3/4 loss Texas team in Oct but because Bama loses to a top 5 team in early Dec it’s considered worse?
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 10:04 am
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8063 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:02 am to
all alabama is doing in the seccg is preserving their #1 seed.

If they lost they'll be... wherever Clemson vs bama isn't the first playoff game. It's still about tv entertainment.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 10:05 am
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6770 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:06 am to
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Yes I did. You don't have to like the answer for it to be an answer. If you want to have a conversation, let's do it. First, walk back from being a douchebag Gump and apologize to everyone for being a douchebag Gump.


Your deflection is almost as bad as a typical OSU coach’s wife trying to defend herself from her husband.

You made an absurd claim. Then you exhibited that you are incapable of creating a valid argument in the positive. You have shown a great lack of courage in even trying to formulate an argument that you know would only expose you to more ridicule. But I don’t really blame you: you are merely a symptom of the times.
Posted by N97883
New Dehli Forsyth GA
Member since Nov 2013
8063 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:11 am to
If the system was a big 4 championship game was a playoff game then we could drop the polls.

I would be all for that but we would have to accept a scenario where a 3 loss Missouri beats #1 Bama in the seccg and gets to go to the playoffs. It's how the pros do it but the old men running NCAAF would never allow it. But that has to be the rule going in and that's not the case this year.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 10:12 am
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119158 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:11 am to
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An undefeated ND will not be left out of the playoffs.




Left out no, blown out yes
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71709 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:14 am to
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Your deflection is almost as bad as a typical OSU coach’s wife trying to defend herself from her husband.
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Your deflection
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almost as bad as a typical OSU coach’s wife trying to defend herself from her husband.




You make all my points for me, Gump.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21888 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:15 am to
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2 of the best teams in the country can easily be in the same conference or even in the same division of a conference. Unfortunately football doesn't have a good way to truly determine which teams are really better


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yeah too bad team in the division don't play each other. Why would the loser get a mulligan for not being good enough to win?


Do you make this same argument for every other sport?

Football doesn't have a real playoff.
You cant use only conference champs since not all conference champs can be represented. Plus not all conferences are equal.

Even Basketball doesn't give an automatic bid to every conference champ and that tournament allows like 68 teams now.

When it finally expands to 8 teams then maybe you can include all conference champs but they will still pick wild card teams based on some formula like RPI

The goal is to try to pick which teams are the best.
Winning your conference is certainly a plus.

The CFP is really nothing more than the BCS+2

If it expands to 8 teams it will be the BCS+6

BTW you think I'm making a case for Alabama to get in if they lose to Georgia. Actually I'm not.

If you cant get in the Playoff without winning your conference then how does Notre Dame get in?

How do you select which of the 4 conference champs go out of the 5 conferences? What about Group of 5 conference champs?

What if one of the conference champs has 2 losses? 3 losses?
Should they get in over obviously better teams that have only 1 loss?






Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11836 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:22 am to
I think to be honest if CU and ND win out it will be UM if they win out and UGA.

But it will be interesting after the final week of the regular season to see where ND is sitting along with UGA, UM, and OU.
Posted by thatthang
Member since Jan 2012
6770 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:23 am to
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I would be all for that but we would have to accept a scenario where a 3 loss Missouri beats #1 Bama in the seccg and gets to go to the playoffs. It's how the pros do it but the old men running NCAAF would never allow it. But that has to be the rule going in and that's not the case this year.


You have made a sound argument and correctly identified the pros and cons- well done. That said, would you really want that system? I'm not that old but I still really cherish what makes college football so unique: the emphasis on the season. This has nothing to do with what I think will benefit Alabama, as history tells me that as soon as the rules change to alleviate a perceived Alabama advantage, Alabama just takes advantage of the new rule. So getting that disclaimer out of the way, assuming unranked four-loss Northwestern wins their last game, you really want to put them in over, say, a one loss SEC runner-up? Or undefeated Notre Dame? Again, it's a valid argument to make, I just think that system would make the regular season way less fun.
Posted by TideWarrior
Asheville/Chapel Hill NC
Member since Sep 2009
11836 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:24 am to
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The playoff committee would be dissolved if they left out one of the blue bloods who won their conference simply because a non-conference winner passed an eye test.


Did this not already happen when PSU beat OSU in the regular and PSU went on to win the Big 10 but yet OSU got in and PSU did not?
Posted by butchvan
Anniston, AL
Member since Jun 2011
266 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:25 am to
Nothing better than a huge thread full of all the losers whining about the best team in the country for the last 10 years. Each and every one of these butt hurt fans realizes their team will never reach this level of success. Meanwhile the Crimson Tide continues to roll, destroying everything in it's path.
Posted by rolltide1283
Pinson
Member since Feb 2007
3362 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:25 am to
I agree. We would need UGA to lose to GT for us to definitely get in with a loss.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21888 posts
Posted on 11/12/18 at 10:26 am to
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I would be all for that but we would have to accept a scenario where a 3 loss Missouri beats #1 Bama in the seccg and gets to go to the playoffs. It's how the pros do it but the old men running NCAAF would never allow it. But that has to be the rule going in and that's not the case this year.


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You have made a sound argument and correctly identified the pros and cons- well done. That said, would you really want that system? I'm not that old but I still really cherish what makes college football so unique: the emphasis on the season. This has nothing to do with what I think will benefit Alabama, as history tells me that as soon as the rules change to alleviate a perceived Alabama advantage, Alabama just takes advantage of the new rule. So getting that disclaimer out of the way, assuming unranked four-loss Northwestern wins their last game, you really want to put them in over, say, a one loss SEC runner-up? Or undefeated Notre Dame? Again, it's a valid argument to make, I just think that system would make the regular season way less fun.


Even the pros have wildcard teams.
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