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re: I see no way Bama gets in if they lose the SEC championship game and ND, UGA, Michigan and

Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:22 am to
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:22 am to
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Maybe we should save the mulligump scenarios for when they're actually needed.



I’d definitely wait to see what Alabama’s argument needs to be before nailing one down right now.
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:22 am to
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Auburn beat UGA 40-17 last year. Then three weeks later lost to the same team 28-7.
Is that a fluke, a case of intangibles or coaching though?
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 7:25 am
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:23 am to
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I’d definitely wait to see what Alabama’s argument needs to be before nailing one down right now
Point being, we may lose to y'all and Georgia and not have an argument.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:25 am to
Well if there’s a true “best team” out of the two then by definition one has to be a fluke.

Even if the teams were equally good, that would make both flukes as they shouldn’t have been blowouts.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:26 am to
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Point being, we may lose to y'all and Georgia and not have an argument.

So because that’s possible, we can’t go through scenarios?
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:26 am to
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Even if the teams were equally good, that would make both flukes as they shouldn’t have been blowouts.
Doesn't that leave game planning out of the equation though?
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:28 am to
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Doesn't that leave game planning out of the equation though?


No. Gameplanning, talent, chemistry. All of that is wrapped up into the result of the game.


When you combine all the factors, one team is either clearly superior or they’re both about the same.
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 7:31 am
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:28 am to
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So because that’s possible, we can’t go through scenarios?
Of course we can. People in this thread are treating it almost like it's a given that Alabama will lose no more or less than one game and need to make the argument, though.

I understand that it has sort of become the Bama trope, though. Bama drops a game and needs to make an argument to get into the big game(s) despite not playing for the SEC Championship.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:32 am to
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Of course we can

So then why did you say,

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Maybe we should save the mulligump scenarios for when they're actually needed.
Posted by TideWarrior
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:34 am to
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To date the committee has made the least controversial picks every time and see no reason they'll break that trend this year.


Truly confused here

Lets see here:

1st year a lot of debate between whether OSU, Baylor, or TCU should get the 4th spot

2nd year OU getting in over other 1 loss teams that had one more win and the Big 12 still not having a CCG

3rd year OSU getting in after losing to PSU who went on the win the Big 10 CG. So head to head or winning the CCG did not matter.

4th year UA getting in without winning division.
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:36 am to
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People in this thread are treating it almost like it's a given that Alabama will lose no more or less than one game and need to make the argument
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:37 am to
If we get to 12-0 we are playing for seeding in the SEC Championship Game. You just are going to have to deal with it.
Posted by TigerTalker16
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:38 am to
People just need to accept that Bama will be in the playoff yet again. And like the OP mentioned, it probably doesn’t matter because Bama is likely going to win big in Atlanta anyway.
Posted by Jake_LaMotta
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:39 am to
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If you can't win your conference, then by logic, you cannot be one of the best 4 teams.


Then how did Alabama beat Clemson (ACC champion) and Georgia (SEC Champion) last year?

The Playoff Committee is supposed to put in the 4 best teams not 4 conference champions.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:40 am to
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No. Gameplanning, talent, chemistry. All of that is wrapped up into the result of the game.
Talent and chemistry are baked in to the teams. Gameplanning not so much.

Team A's staff might have a great game plan for team B in their first matchup. They may, however, lay an egg planning for the rematch (LSU-Bama in the Sugar Bowl comes to mind.)
This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 7:40 am
Posted by thatthang
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:40 am to
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If you can't win your conference, then by logic, you cannot be one of the best 4 teams.


I happen to think if Bama can’t win the conference the fans really have no reason to be upset if the team gets left out. But that doesn’t change the fact that you sir, are a complete dumbass.
Posted by PepaSpray
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:43 am to
Correct.

Although Bama would likely mop the floor with ND or Michigan.
Posted by Weagle25
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:50 am to
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Talent and chemistry are baked in to the teams. Gameplanning not so much.

Team A's staff might have a great game plan for team B in their first matchup. They may, however, lay an egg planning for the rematch (LSU-Bama in the Sugar Bowl comes to mind.)


It’s all baked in to the result of the game.

Again there’s three options:
A. Smart is superior to Gus at gameplanning
B. Gus is superior to Smart at gameplanning
C. They’re both about the same.

If A is the answer, wouldn’t the first game be a fluke?
If B is the answer, wouldn’t the SEC Championship be a fluke?
If C is the answer, wouldn’t both be a fluke?
Posted by Roll Tide Ravens
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 7:59 am to
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If you can't win your conference, then by logic, you cannot be one of the best 4 teams.

Yet somehow Bama managed to beat Clemson and Georgia in the playoffs last year.

Both of those were conference champions.
Posted by cyde
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Posted on 11/12/18 at 8:05 am to
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If C is the answer, wouldn’t both be a fluke?
Sometimes good coaches have bad gameplans.

I'm not sure I'd characterize coaching wins and losses as flukes, necessarily. It's like losing a chess game. It would seem that referring to the victor's win as a fluke would be poor sportsmanship.

This post was edited on 11/12/18 at 8:08 am
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