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re: I actually really like Jon Sumrall a lot BUT

Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:49 pm to
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the AD can easily have an assistant/intern do that shite. It’s clear they hire people to pump sunshine online and create hype to try to control the online narrative.


Yup. It's the deepstate, Q, and Disney pulling all of the strings.
Posted by theCAW
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:50 pm to
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It's the deepstate, Q, and Disney pulling all of the strings.
no it’s pretty obvious.

Look at all
The hype going into the 2025 seasons when anyone with even remedial football knowledge could tell that that team was going to suck, primarily because of Napier’s playcalling.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 1:52 pm to
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My biggest question about Sumrall is why did he take the UF job in the first place?
He either thinks he can overcome the odds and breakthru like spurrier and Meyer or he can get a fat buyout from Stricklin and then a nice new job as his reputation won’t take much of a hit for failing at Florida as we’ve gained a stigma of being one of the worst jobs in the SEC in the post-modern era
Posted by CatfishJohn
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 2:11 pm to
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My biggest question about Sumrall is why did he take the UF job in the first place? A program that has Alabama level expectations with Auburn level results.



Six year $44.7m contract, with 70% of remaining contract guaranteed (buyout)

Assistant and support staff salary pool of $16.3 million per year

Good incentives, including $1.5 million for an SEC Championship win

I'm sure that had something to do with it.



ETA:

He wasn't getting a better offer than that and Florida is good program with great in-state talent. While expectations are high, he could've gone somewhere without the advantages and without this much money and failed just as easily.


This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 2:13 pm
Posted by wadewilson
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 2:38 pm to
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? A program that has Alabama level expectations with Auburn level results.


Is it actually that bad at Florida?

Because from the outside it looks like you're positioned for success much better than Auburn.
Posted by ForeverGator
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 2:38 pm to
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no it’s pretty obvious.

Look at all
The hype going into the 2025 seasons when anyone with even remedial football knowledge could tell that that team was going to suck, primarily because of Napier’s playcalling.


No shite.

Now, how are you going to change it? Are you going to contribute millions and demand change?

Or you just going to live in your basement in BFE Polk County while taking meth and spewing out BS?
Posted by generalgator87
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 3:05 pm to
Just read theCAW's posts.
Posted by UKWildcats
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 3:26 pm to
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He REALLY needs to change his wiki page photo


I've got you covered bro.

Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 3:30 pm to
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Is it actually that bad at Florida?

Because from the outside it looks like you're positioned for success much better than Auburn.


Some of our fans feel snakebit, and why wouldn't they? We haven't been a top program in the SEC for 15 years now.

We should be much improved as should Auburn. I think both teams have a shot to go around 8-4 this season. The SEC is so competitive though, so it's hard to say.
Posted by Audioman213
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 3:42 pm to
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Because from the outside it looks like you're positioned for success much better than Auburn.


We have a brand-new $85 million football facility, a $15 million indoor practice facility, and we're investing $1.45 billion into The Swamp.

The problem is, you can't change people's minds when they're already convinced our program is still operating with 2011-level investments. Many have already made up their minds, regardless of what's happening today.
Posted by Sooner1984
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Member since Jan 2017
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 3:52 pm to
I hunted ducks with his strength and conditioning coach in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado in 2006. He was a Green Beret at the time.

On his way to meet us at camp, he said he went to buy a hunting license but they wouldn't sell him one because he didn't have a hunter safety card in Colorado.

LOL

Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:27 pm to
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:27 pm to
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Is it actually that bad at Florida?
No it’s actually worse

quote:

Because from the outside it looks like you're positioned for success much better than Auburn.
Not even close. Freeze failed, maybe he was a one trick pony or washed up or maybe the health issues eroded his abilities, but Auburn gave Freeze a lot of support and if he had any coaching acumen would’ve made the playoffs at least.

Florida is more on par with a South Carolina type program. It’s no coincidence that the SEC paired UF with Kentucky and South Carolina as permanent yearly rivals.

When sumrall was hired I went to the football board on rupps rafters to see what Kentucky fans had to say as Sumrall was an alumni.

One of them commented that they felt bad for Jon for taking this job because he will have Bama/LSU/UGA expectations with South Carolina level resources and support and even went as far to say that Florida was arguably the worst job in the SEC. Miss State is a tough job but the fans and admin have matching expectations, while Florida has high expectations with Miss State level admin and boosters.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:32 pm to
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If you can't win at Florida, how could you win at Georgia?
if Kirby went to coach UF instead of UGA in 2016, he never goes back to back.

Historically we’ve only had 2 coaches achieve true success, both of them hall of famers.

One of them, urban, is the only coach to win multiple titles and win titles at multiple programs in the 21st century.

Spurrier won 1 title, and I feel like him and Kirby are more comparable in terms of background (coaching at their alma mater and raising the standards there). Difference between them is spurrier was an X’s and O’s Genius who did more with less while Kirby, who is a great x and o’s coach in his own right, really succeeded by his recruiting acumen and stacking talent.

UGA gave him the infrastructure and support to do that, he never would’ve gotten that at UF and would’ve had a mark Richt ceiling and a Dan Mullen floor at Florida.
Posted by bigDgator
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:34 pm to
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When sumrall was hired I went to the football board on rupps rafters


Stopped reading there. Ask Kentucky fans on here about Rupp's Rafters. That's like getting your Kentucky info from Gatorcountry. Also I believe the football board is called Wildcat Lair. RR is for basketball.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Jauquismos
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 4:37 pm to
Winning at Tulane is totally different than winning at Florida.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:13 pm to
Sumrall will be your best coach since urban
Posted by Jorts R Us
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:34 pm to
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I was one of the only people calling it for what it was, even predicting the usf loss


you are always predicting doom. You were just being consistent. And no, you weren't the only one concerned that 8-5 was a fluke. Not even close.
This post was edited on 7/22/26 at 6:35 pm
Posted by Bacon84
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 6:52 pm to
I think Sumrall will be good too…. But I also thought Napier was going to do well.

So now I’m just gonna shut up and wait
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
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Posted on 7/22/26 at 7:04 pm to
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, you weren't the only one concerned that 8-5 was a fluke.
I didn’t say I was the only one but one of the few, there were quite a few but the overall majority of Gator fans and even non Gator fans were convinced Billy turned it around
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