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re: Hugh Freeze's first class at Ole Miss ranked #47 on 247

Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:48 am to
Posted by matthew25
Member since Jun 2012
9425 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:48 am to
There's a video on Youtube called "Ole Miss KKK The Truth" where the clucker responds to the statement that "the rally killed the KKK in the South." The protest was just prior to a LSU game on Nov. 21, 2009. He said it was 11 cluckers standing up to a hostile crowd of 20,000 that insulted them the entire 10 minutes they stood silent. In fact, he makes a pretty good case for Ole Miss. On other videos, be sure to watch for the clucker with the Auburn baseball cap.
Posted by RebelFreeze48
Valdosta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1963 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:48 am to
They are actually very prominent in northeast Mississippi. Like around Corinth and Iuka
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 12:50 am
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
14096 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 12:52 am to
They may be present in that area, but prominent.. I'm gonna say no.
Posted by RebelFreeze48
Valdosta, GA
Member since Dec 2012
1963 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 1:00 am to
They are very much so unfortunately. Hell they are even in the Adopt a Highway signs up there. My buddy is a State Trooper up that way and says they very high in number up there. It sucks it is that way.
Posted by HYDRnation
Member since Nov 2014
63 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 4:52 am to
You're right. According to the Southern Poverty Law Center's "Hate Map", there are only TWO (2) active chapters of the KKK in Mississippi. However, there are a ton of them in Alabama and Tennessee.

Hate Map
Posted by DocHog
Member since Nov 2006
1915 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 6:36 am to
With all of the blue-blood programs out there fighting over talent, it is simply amazing how Freeze came out of nowhere to land that class with Tunsil, etc.

At the time, I thought that Freeze and his staff must be extremely charismatic and focused in their recruiting efforts. Something they are doing is resonating with the young players. Kudos to him for that

I also realized--and still do-- that this is the SEC. And that other programs are equally focused on, and excellent at , recruiting at the highest level. And if Freeze is now competing with and beating these monster programs for great recruits, it can't just be family atmsophere and his kind personality.

There is money exchanging hands as well.

As a Hog fan, I'm not mad. I'm just frustrated that we don't seem to do this very well
Posted by Roses of Crimson
Sweet home Ala-bam
Member since Nov 2014
1631 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 6:48 am to
I'd like to know how many other Michael Oher's were found on the street and some Rich Memphis area Ole Miss alums just took em in out of the goodness of their heart?

Freezes incessant praying and hiding behind religion makes me skittish about him anyway. It's like he "thinks" he's got people fooled when he almost single handedly became the ruination of Memphis high school football with under handed, FBI probe leading tactics. I think he's just too ignorant to see how stupid and obvious he looks.

As long as he is there Ole miss wont be 47 ever again. THey may end up number one. Yes, Ole miss, in Oxford, number one class. Let that sink in. This NCAA isn't gonna punish anybody anyway. If this were the 80's 90's and 00's NCAA of Tom Yeager, Freeze would already be out just based on appearences which is all Yeager and Swank claimed they needed.
Posted by TeeteringBrink
Member since Feb 2007
1109 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:33 am to
The narrative about Ole Miss being racist worked for a long time and killed us for over three decades. The funny thing now is that when other schools try to use it negatively against Ole Miss, it backfires and actually helps OM whenever a recruit actually visits campus and realizes not only how welcome he is, but also how the other school tried to mislead him.

So keep it up, Monty. Please and thank you.
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1193 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 8:54 am to
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There is money exchanging hands as well.


With all this speculation about Ole Miss and other programs paying recruits, it pretty amazing that the recruits themselves aren't outing these programs...

For example, 5* recruit visits program A and was offered $$, then recruit goes to rival program B and offered more $$$. What's keeping that recruit from disclosing program A? Or what's keeping a recruit from demanding more $$/playing time or he'll call TMZ? Or if a player is unhappy with his current program and transfers, he'll could vindictively disclosed that the program violated NCAA rules.
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
21233 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:00 am to
That is a great link to use. Alabama and Tennessee are for more racist than Mississippi.

Posted by TeeteringBrink
Member since Feb 2007
1109 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:12 am to
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it pretty amazing that the recruits themselves aren't outing these programs

Insert clip of TV commercial where one little old lady tells another that's not how it works. That's not how any of this works.
This post was edited on 1/27/16 at 9:22 am
Posted by Crimson Wraith
Member since Jan 2014
24725 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:15 am to
LINK

Odd article. Trying to pressure kids to stay in-state?

Posted by Gator4Life
Rocky Mountain Way
Member since Sep 2015
335 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 9:19 am to
SPICE U!!!
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8174 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:11 am to
quote:

Freezes incessant praying and hiding behind religion makes me skittish about him anyway. It's like he "thinks" he's got people fooled when he almost single handedly became the ruination of Memphis high school football with under handed, FBI probe leading tactics. I think he's just too ignorant to see how stupid and obvious he looks.


Posted by hehatedrew
New Zealand
Member since Oct 2009
25504 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:16 am to
38-17
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7349 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 10:45 am to
quote:

Freeze has done a great job there


Agreed Cheeky- Freeze has been one of the best new college coaches over the past 4 years.
Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
Member since Aug 2012
16950 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:10 am to
quote:

The reasons I think we are recruiting well are:

1. Freeze is just a really good recruiter. Orgeron himself said he was the best recruiter they had. When he first became our coach I was not excited but went to see him speak a month later and fell in love with the guy. Just an extremely likable guy.

2. Bama, LSU, etc. Yeah, blame yourselves. You turned the SEC into the premiere brand within college football and we get to ride those coattails. You also laid the blueprint out for how to recruit at a high level.

3. Starting to act like a big boy football program. It is so different now than when I was there. The atmosphere is like being at big time college football.

4. Winning. Freeze has showed that he can back it up. If he won 6 games a season we would not be recruiting the way we are right now.

5. Television. Everyone is on television every game now. Family can see you play. NFL scouts can see you play. This one is huge and will continue to change the face of college football.

6. I have flooded the recruiting circuit with cash, hooker, and blow. There, beat you to it.


quote:

The reasons I think we are recruiting well are:


1. Freeze is a false prophet
2. A better financial support system for players
3. Hookers
4. Better at hiding racist Mississippi fans

FIFY
Posted by KiwiHead
Auckland, NZ
Member since Jul 2014
27374 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:14 am to
Freeze is a good coach and an even better order taker. The Tuohy's, Mannings and Doc Hollingsworth, tell him what to do and he does it. Dickie Scruggs, fresh out of prison also along with David Nutt pour a lot of money into the coffers. The word among OM types in Memphis is that Archie pulls the strings.
Posted by beHop
Landmass
Member since Jan 2012
14536 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 11:45 am to
Nailed it
Posted by Lokistale
Member since Aug 2013
1193 posts
Posted on 1/27/16 at 2:26 pm to
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pour a lot of money into the coffers


So you are implying that Ole Miss's current position with the recruits rankings and current football success is all because of $$ from these wealthy supporters?

In terms of wealthy boosters, I don't think Ole Miss is even in the top 20. I've always heard that Texas has the wealthiest boosters. A few years ago, it was rumored that Texas may have the resources to take Saban from Bama. Oregon is a school that has the backing of Nike.

So if Ole Miss is doing some illuminati method to paid their recruits and manage to keep these recruit and NCAA quiet, other schools like Texas and Oregon will be doing it too. Yet, Oregon is at #24, and Texas is at #37.
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