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Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:00 pm to BLG
It took Alabama the best run college football has ever seen to overtake LSU talent in the NFL, and even that wasn't enough. It also required several years of lackluster development from Miles.
ETA: Even so, that's a ridiculous measurement to compare LSU and A&M. LSU is in it's golden age. A&M never had a golden age.
ETA: Even so, that's a ridiculous measurement to compare LSU and A&M. LSU is in it's golden age. A&M never had a golden age.
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Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:17 pm to Nitro Express
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Joe was completely different in 2019, and it wasn't just the scheme. It was him.
Don’t forget the studs he was surrounded by. Chase, Jefferson, Marshall, Moss, Helaire. A solid offensive line. It Lightning in a bottle. Teams dream to have all the pieces fall their way like LSU did in 2019. There was no significant injuries, schedule was tough enough to battle test them, and honestly we have Bama to thank. If it weren’t for them living in LSU’s head for years, they wouldn’t have done that. I knew we won the national title that night in Tuscaloosa.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 1:28 pm to CFFreak
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I am hoping that O and Ensminger learned something from Brady that will allow for some continuity. We have a dismal offense for a number of years (mostly Miles' fault) and this hotshot kid shows up and sets our offense straight and then leaves after one year.
That's a gross over simplification of situation and Burrow's time in BR. Regardless, why are you crying over the past tense. Obviously O and E get it. It was O that directed E to go all in on the spread. It was E who suggested Brady. Orgeron has already stated that there is no going back. Alleluia he has seen the light.
Burrow arrived in BR 3 months before the season began in 2018. The offense was built on what we had at the time before Joe's arrival. Even with his arrival, he wasn't named starter right away and we really didn't know what we had. Ensminger did open it up a little late. Regardless, 10-3 was nothing sniff at and It should have been 12-1.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 2:23 pm to Newuser13
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How did Alabama lose at home with way more talent than LSU. Doesn’t make sense
To be fair Alabama has lost to LSU only once in the last 9 games
Posted on 9/18/20 at 2:27 pm to C W
You didn’t really answer my question but cool
Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:02 pm to C W
Despite what people think, LSU Bama will decide the west once again. Even if we lose to Florida that won’t effect the west standings to that point.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:04 pm to CFFreak
Have another dv
Posted on 9/18/20 at 3:49 pm to CFFreak
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If Burrow was that good in 2019 and made some of the throws he made last night, why did we not get that out of him in 2018?
Max protect.
In 2018, LSU still in the stone age, felt max protect was the best way to give your QB time to run through progressions and make a throw without getting sacked. Only problem is we often kept theTE and the RB in for pass protection which then leaves you only 3 receivers in the routes and no dump off guy...
2019 Brady changes the playbook with RPO’s and empty sets now with 4-5 receivers in the routes and usually a safety valve option. Key is get rid of the ball in 2.5 sec or less.
Result was LSU OL went from near last in SEC in 2018 to best in NCAA in 2019 and largely the same guys...
Posted on 9/18/20 at 5:25 pm to GetmorewithLes
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In 2018, LSU still in the stone age, felt max protect was the best way to give your QB time to run through progressions and make a throw without getting sacked. Only problem is we often kept theTE and the RB in for pass protection which then leaves you only 3 receivers in the routes and no dump off guy...
It has been stated many times that the line just wasnt protecting good enough and Burrow and the receivers didnt have the chemistry to run a quick passing attack like they did in 2019.
If you look at some of the later games in 2018, the offense looks a lot more 2019-esque as they gained experience, especially the bowl game.
Posted on 9/18/20 at 5:41 pm to CFFreak
Players mature and get better. Probably not fair to judge him on his 2018 season. And, sometimes, things just click. Was it all him? No. But everything worked in together for lsu and burrow last year. He is a hell of a player and I'm happy to see him do well after leaving osu.
He tore shite up last year. Whether it's because of his oline or his coordinator, he deserves the credit he gets. This year probably won't tell a lot with rebuilding and the way things are now with covid, but next year will tell a lot.
Either way, burrow was a fricking monster last year. Hats off to him and lsu
He tore shite up last year. Whether it's because of his oline or his coordinator, he deserves the credit he gets. This year probably won't tell a lot with rebuilding and the way things are now with covid, but next year will tell a lot.
Either way, burrow was a fricking monster last year. Hats off to him and lsu
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:27 am to SidewalkTiger
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It has been stated many times that the line just wasnt protecting good enough and Burrow and the receivers didnt have the chemistry to run a quick passing attack like they did in 2019.
In 2018 the play calling included pass routes that took way too long to develop, QB under center, no RPO's, and three receiver pass plays. After the 29-0 shellacking by Bama CEO and Ensminger agreed to let it hang out and thus was born the idea of a spread at LSU. The results were very encouraging in those last 4 games but it was known to them that they still did not possess the complete scheme.
In 2019 LSU fielded 9 different OL starting units due to injury and suspensions mostly. This is a recipe for disaster in most circumstances but it did not really cause LSU too much grief. The offense that was installed in 2019 was the full spread system and made the defense cover the entire field instead of filling the box and hence the odds evened up on the OL vs DL.
So the question remains "OL create Joe or Joe create OL?"
Chicken or the Egg scenario...
Posted on 9/20/20 at 9:56 am to turnpiketiger
No it won’t. It will be the Iron Bowl as usual. Last year was the first time in 9 years that it didn’t.
Despite what people think, LSU Bama will decide the west once again. Even if we lose to Florida that won’t effect the west standings to that point
Despite what people think, LSU Bama will decide the west once again. Even if we lose to Florida that won’t effect the west standings to that point
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:00 am to Tjtennispro
Also a loss in the SEC of a loss in the SEC. Your argument could stand if anyone outside Baton Rouge thought LSU would lose only once.
SEC Championship will be Florida vs Auburn
SEC Championship will be Florida vs Auburn
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:22 am to CFFreak
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If Burrow was that good in 2019 and made some of the throws he made last night, why did we not get that out of him in 2018? A lot of people think he was ok and then he just had some great summer camp in 2019 and got 10x better for the Texas game but I think that's BS. That kid was great before then.
That's the Burrow I saw in your 2018 bowl game vs Central Florida. Half your starters were missing and it was Burrows, period, that won that game.
On the other hand, your OC is not going to look near as smart this season. Who knows they might realize that he is a tight ends coach after all.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 10:54 am to RT1941
quote:Like Clemson was able to get every draft able player to come back the year before.
Ed O was able to retain a lot of highly talented players and he sold them on staying for the '19 season. Burrow was fantastic, but the retention of guys that could've chosen to go pro and instead chose to stay played a big part in LSU's season as well.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 11:35 am to CFFreak
I thought the first word in the post was going to be English.
Posted on 9/20/20 at 1:12 pm to Sebastian
Burrow is good, but Brady definitely had some influence. I like what he is doing in Carolina
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