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Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:21 pm to DawgsLife
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:21 pm to DawgsLife
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Tom Herman ring a bell?
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You go after assistants or smaller school successful HCs
Herman is no different than McElwain from CSU to UF. Or Frost would be from UCF to anywhere bigger.
Point being, successful big school coaches are mostly out of reach, you have to take a chance on a hot name up and comer at a smaller school...like tom herman. PJ Fleck wound up at Minnesota...
If not that, an assistant coach.
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 3:27 pm
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Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:21 pm to DawgsLife
Probably more money!
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:24 pm to tjv305
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Who are the coaches that coached at a P5 school for 5 years or more and left that job for a better one?
Nobody said they had to be at a school for 5 years.
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[quote]Great coaches get better jobs right away .
Meyer was out of work for a year. But typically, yes.
This is one reason I sad that Meyer made up the health issue to leave Florida for another job. he suspected, heard, or was told that if he would leave for a year, the job at OSU would come open and he would be hired. just my guess....and I know you were not talking to me. Sorry for butting in on your conversation.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 3:26 pm to TrueLefty
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Probably more money!
Money would bring a lot of the top coaches to the SEC. They would change jobs from a top school to another one for money. And with the SEC network money we are all getting you would think SEC schools would be taking advantage of that.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 4:13 pm to tjv305
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How is Kiffin not a freaking prayer but then you say he some schools will give him a shot out of desperation?
Isn't this kind of self explanatory ?
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Who are the coaches that coached at a P5 school for 5 years or more and left that job for a better one?
Don't care or GAS...just giving you input on your list.
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Great coaches get better jobs right away .
Sure if they have proven resume with conference championchips or top 10's...those folks don't grow on trees.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 4:34 pm to DawgsLife
He was the only one available! 
This post was edited on 11/2/17 at 4:35 pm
Posted on 11/2/17 at 4:36 pm to DawgsLife
I think Stricklin will go for proven first, but proven has so many obsticles now.
Big buyouts have ruined getting big name coaches unless in a unique situation now. Would cost UF 20 million to get Gundy out of his contract. So it's kind of the angle you have to go now. Outside of Kelly and Stoops, what big name could UF go for that makes sense? I would love Kelly obviously, but it's a reach. I think he honestly goes to UCLA, he is a West coast guy to me.
Big buyouts have ruined getting big name coaches unless in a unique situation now. Would cost UF 20 million to get Gundy out of his contract. So it's kind of the angle you have to go now. Outside of Kelly and Stoops, what big name could UF go for that makes sense? I would love Kelly obviously, but it's a reach. I think he honestly goes to UCLA, he is a West coast guy to me.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 4:40 pm to thunderbird1100
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Herman is no different than McElwain from CSU to UF. Or Frost would be from UCF to anywhere bigger.
Maybe I am wrong. I consider Houston a better/bigger school than UCF or CSU. They were old members of the Southwest Conference.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 4:42 pm to Gatorbait2008
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I think Stricklin will go for proven first, but proven has so many obsticles now.
No doubt. Again, Georgia does the same thing. I know LSU has gone after some established coaches, and a few other schools, too.
Either way....good luck on the search.
Posted on 11/2/17 at 4:53 pm to DawgsLife
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nobody said they had to be at a school for 5 years.
Nobody said a time frame but the coaches that were Named Gundy , Ferentz ect have been at their programs more then 5 years. Guys normally get their big job in less then 5 years at a P5 school. Almost every coach hired at major P5 programs have less then 5 years with a P5 team. I don’t Know if the Mullen and Gundy type guys don’t want the pressure of have a top job or if ADs just don’t think they are worth the money. I think the guys like Mullen hate the pressure compared to guys like Kiffin .
Posted on 11/2/17 at 5:00 pm to DawgsLife
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man, things have changed. I still consider UCF as being a small, small school....barely a step or two above Georgia Southern
UCF has the largest undergrad enrollment in the country
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