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Herbstreit: I'm a fan of a new rule, tempo has taken defensive minds out of game

Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:04 pm
Posted by RangerRicky
Member since Dec 2014
347 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:04 pm
From today:

quote:

Cowherd: Nobody wants to say this on the air, but I've heard from football people that Oregon has really taken schematics out of the game, it's just really track and the game needs to be tweaked. It's too fast, it's not fair. Is Oregon really playing football or is just track and field? For you, as a former quarterback is it a turnoff sometimes to just see how fast you can do everything?


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Herbie: If they just lined up and played ball and ran the same plays and didn't go fast, they would have a hard time moving the ball. I'm personally a fan of a new rule. Something in the game has to change for me. I feel like sometimes we watch college football now and it's like arena football. The tempo has gotten to be so much it has taken all the defensive minds out of the game and turned them into a non-factor. Something has to change.


Saban is not going to be happy, this could slow his HUNH down.


Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:06 pm to
You've wasted this material by posting it at 7:06 PM on a Wednesday night.

Thursday morning is always a busy time on tRant.
Posted by LSU1NSEC
Member since Sep 2007
17243 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:06 pm to
player safety
Posted by Weagle25
THE Football State.
Member since Oct 2011
46178 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:07 pm to
Only one team is really pushing the pace.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68439 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:08 pm to
quote:

tempo has taken defensive minds out of game

Maybe defensive minds shouldn't be retarded and adapt. Or at the least condition their players to keep up.
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:08 pm to
It would be almost impossible to make a rule for this. What if a team is down by a lot and need to come back to win it. Say screw them they need to still play slow?
Posted by diddydirtyAubie
Bozeman
Member since Dec 2010
39829 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:09 pm to
His HUNH got beat by Urban.
Posted by hawgfaninc
https://youtu.be/torc9P4-k5A
Member since Nov 2011
46330 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:09 pm to
bert was ahead of the curve
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:09 pm to
quote:

Maybe defensive minds shouldn't be retarded and adapt. Or at the least condition their players to keep up.


Have the ref stand over the ball until all players are subbed in and out.

/thread
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68439 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:10 pm to
quote:

Have the ref stand over the ball until all players are subbed in and out.

Isn't this already done to some degree?
Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
24769 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:10 pm to
Herbstreit is a bitch
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51810 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:11 pm to
It is.
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
26498 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:11 pm to
Yes. The HUNH with the intent to keep the defense from subbing is a little crooked IMO, which is why Auburn has embraced it so fervently.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25872 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:11 pm to
quote:

Isn't this already done to some degree?

They're supposed to. Sometimes the refs get rushed and they fail to do so.

Bigger problem imo is refs not getting into position before the snap.
Posted by Goins
Member since Sep 2013
511 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:12 pm to
quote:

Have the ref stand over the ball until all players are subbed in and out.

Isn't this already done to some degree?


yes, but jameis ran right through that one
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
6179 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

Maybe defensive minds shouldn't be retarded and adapt.



This. You dictate the tempo right back. This requires being high risk and jumping routes and anticipating playcalls. Be aggressive. They are going to score anyway. I'd rather them score quickly and increase my odds for a turnover than them drive the length of the field and sap all the energy from my defense.
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:13 pm to
quote:

Maybe defensive minds shouldn't be retarded and adapt. Or at the least condition their players to keep up.


This times 100^100
howzabout getting a slightly thinner type of defensive player.
Posted by BlackPawnMartyr
Houston, TX
Member since Dec 2010
15286 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:14 pm to
quote:

Saban is not going to be happy, this could slow his HUNH down.


His main point was always "is this where you want football to go" but of course people didn't want to argue over this point so they hopped on the one line about rather it was more injury prone or not (a secondary point to the first). Therefore they reframed the original argument which had a valid point. In the future I believe there will be a rule in place to slow down the offenses and allow more defensive schematics restoring the balance of powers and again allowing for a chess match instead of just bullet play. All of the rules of late have really shifted in the favor of offense and this really affects the game dissapportionately.
This post was edited on 1/7/15 at 7:16 pm
Posted by Smalls
Southern California
Member since Jul 2009
10245 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:16 pm to
The way you solve the issue is allowing the defense the ability to substitute on their own within a set time frame, the first 3-5 seconds of the play clock. Revert to old rule in final 3 minutes of each half.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66344 posts
Posted on 1/7/15 at 7:20 pm to
quote:

Isn't this already done to some degree?


yeah but if you are Jamies Winston you can just push them out of the way.
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