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re: Has there ever been a costlier decision in college sports than GT leaving the SEC?
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:34 am to Harvey Wallbanger
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:34 am to Harvey Wallbanger
quote:While comparing the two, I wonder how their coaching careers panned out?
Coach Dodd was a man of morals and ethics. Bear Bryant did not know the meaning of those words.
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:47 am to GusAU
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It would really suck if my school has NEVER had even one undefeated team in it's ENTIRE HISTORY. How is that even possible for an athletic program as successful as UF? (I know, I know, you have to lose at least one game in EVERY SINGLE SEASON ever played) I have personally witnessed three such seasons.
Only a complete moron would take 1 championship season to 3 lol. Weren’t you just giving me shite about 3 years. And you’re bragging about your 1 championship compared to 3? Lmao
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 8:54 am
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:10 am to TeddyWestside
Some Gamecock fans will say that Carolina leaving the ACC was a terrible decision. If the ends justify the means it surely wasnt. Even still, getting out of the ACC was best
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:43 am to Harvey Wallbanger
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Coach Dodd was a man of morals and ethics. Bear Bryant did not know the meaning of those words.
Bear would sign players, then run them off to clear his roster if a better player came along.
Your comments read like a dog that's been beaten too much. Dobbs played for Tennessee under Neyland and his dislike for Alabama was a lot to do about that. BAMA was taking advantage of NCAA scholarship rules like other SEC schools. He wanted it changed and solicited Alabama to vote to reduce the number. The Alabama president did not and Dodd was history.
Dodd was petty about what he thought he had coming. On one occasion one of his players got hammered by a BAMA player and Dodd wanted Coach Bryant to punish him. Telling Coach Bryant how to run his football program wasn't a great idea. Just more Vol/Tech whining.
When GaTech left the SEC it was literally the death penalty. The moral of the story? Don't poke the "Bear."
Posted on 6/30/23 at 9:47 am to TeddyWestside
Georgia Teck people have always had a haughty attitude about most everything. They also saw themselves as too big and too superior to rub elbows with the rubes in the SEC any longer. Dodd would not travel to the Mississippi schools at all. I know Clemson had to play in Atlanta most of the time when they played Georgia Teck. I believe Auburn played them in Atlanta a lot more than they played them in Auburn.
In the early sixties they held a rather exalted status in Atlanta, and nationally, and would have to leave the SEC to further seek their destiny as a football power.
Another bad decision was Bowden electing to not join the SEC when he had the chance. At that time no one could have seen the effect TV deals would have on the sport.
In the early sixties they held a rather exalted status in Atlanta, and nationally, and would have to leave the SEC to further seek their destiny as a football power.
Another bad decision was Bowden electing to not join the SEC when he had the chance. At that time no one could have seen the effect TV deals would have on the sport.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:30 am to TeddyWestside
SMU not reeling in their boosters.
That program ate cyanide.
That program ate cyanide.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:41 am to Audioman213
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I'd trade any of the Big 12 pretenders for them
Why???
Posted on 6/30/23 at 10:52 am to TeddyWestside
As good of a Coach as Bobby Dodd was and he did more with less than just about anybody at the time and won a lot of games he had no business winning he was an awful Athletic Director. He almost completely killed GT’s whole athletic program.
Homer Rice performed a miracle resurrecting that mess.
Homer Rice performed a miracle resurrecting that mess.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:00 am to TigerintheNO
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Yes, Tulane.
Monetarily, maybe. But they were never a football power like GT was at one time.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:00 am to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
Noles always have a place to stay rent free when there are UF fans
Posted on 6/30/23 at 11:50 am to Timstrebor
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Noles always have a place to stay rent free when there are UF fans
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Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:19 pm to FireDanMullen
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Only a complete moron would take 1 championship season to 3 lol. Weren’t you just giving me shite about 3 years. And you’re bragging about your 1 championship compared to 3? Lmao
Only a complete moron would interpret my post about undefeated seasons to mean that I was bragging about our championships compared to yours.
But, you keep doing you.....
Posted on 6/30/23 at 12:31 pm to DawgsLife
quote:one has 5 SEC titles the other has 3. Unless we are talking about 100 year old championships, they were fairly close.
Monetarily, maybe. But they were never a football power like GT was at one time.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:36 pm to Rabidawg
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Ga Tech ain't hurting for cash. That's for sure and for certain, Roy.
Unfortunately (for athletics purposes), that's all on the academic side.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:37 pm to ronricks
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he was an awful Athletic Director. He almost completely killed GT’s whole athletic program.
Homer Rice performed a miracle resurrecting that mess.
Grant Field should never have been renamed after him for that alone.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 1:39 pm to Godawgs4
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The GT folks want you to believe that Bear Bryant was partly the reason along with the scholarship issue.
But the real reason and the only reason was $$$ and greed. GT resented having to share the spoils of their success with the other conference schools. Back then bowl money was a huge amount for the college each year.
GT thought they could go independent (similar to Notre Dame) and reap a big windfall. Pure greed was the reason they left the SEC. Worst decision by any university on any level in the history of college athletics.
I'm a Tech grad and I mostly agree with this statement (though I wouldn't consider it the worst decision).
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:42 pm to GusAU
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Only a complete moron would interpret my post about undefeated seasons to mean that I was bragging about our championships compared to yours. But, you keep doing you...
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I have personally witnessed 3 in my lifetime
How am I not suppose to interpret this as bragging?
I’ll keep doing me and actually have more National titles than BYU and Georgia Tech in the last 40 years. Unlike Auburn. Imagine having to brag about undefeated seasons bc of your lack of hardware lmao
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:43 pm to FireDanMullen
This ninja also tried to claim that Auburn won the SEC in 1993. 
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:46 pm to MetroAtlantaGatorFan
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This ninja also tried to claim that Auburn won the SEC in 1993.
He got seriously butt hurt that I mentioned they have the same amount of championships as Georgia Tech the last 30ish years. I wasn’t even trying to talk shite about them I was just stating a fact.
Posted on 6/30/23 at 3:54 pm to TeddyWestside
Read all the posts up to this point and Tennessee fan, Harvey Wallbanger, got it right through posting the link to the AJC article about Tech's departure.
At the crux of Tech’s exit was the so-called 140 Rule. SEC schools — there were 12, Tulane included — were allowed 140 scholarships for football and men’s basketball; football programs were allowed to sign as many 45 recruits per season. Tech coach Bobby Dodd believed that other teams were overrecruiting, pushing aside underperforming players to clear scholarship space for newer ones.
Said Taz Anderson, the Atlanta entrepreneur who was a captain under Dodd when the Yellow Jackets were based in the SEC: “Coach Dodd would not run you off if you met the part he required. If you went to class and did the work, he’d get you a degree.”
Basically, Georgia Tech left the SEC in 1964 due to controversy over the conference's lax regulation of recruiting and scholarships. Georgia Tech athletic director and head football coach Bobby Dodd had lobbied the league to establish rules prohibiting several practices, particularly the oversigning of players by Alabama coach Bear Bryant.
Both Tech and Tulane wanted the schollie's limit reduced to 140 (football & basketball combined), but the SEC refused.
At the crux of Tech’s exit was the so-called 140 Rule. SEC schools — there were 12, Tulane included — were allowed 140 scholarships for football and men’s basketball; football programs were allowed to sign as many 45 recruits per season. Tech coach Bobby Dodd believed that other teams were overrecruiting, pushing aside underperforming players to clear scholarship space for newer ones.
Said Taz Anderson, the Atlanta entrepreneur who was a captain under Dodd when the Yellow Jackets were based in the SEC: “Coach Dodd would not run you off if you met the part he required. If you went to class and did the work, he’d get you a degree.”
Basically, Georgia Tech left the SEC in 1964 due to controversy over the conference's lax regulation of recruiting and scholarships. Georgia Tech athletic director and head football coach Bobby Dodd had lobbied the league to establish rules prohibiting several practices, particularly the oversigning of players by Alabama coach Bear Bryant.
Both Tech and Tulane wanted the schollie's limit reduced to 140 (football & basketball combined), but the SEC refused.
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