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re: Has Kirby Smart passed Spurrier? I say ....
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:02 am to BranchDawg
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:02 am to BranchDawg
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What about Saban? Is he higher on the list than Spurrier?
Well the last time they faced each other, who won?
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Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:03 am to 1801
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Yes, Smart has surpassed Steve Spurrier and it ain't close.
Spurrier's first 7 seasons in the SEC -
49-5 with 3 undefeated conference records / 5 SEC Championships / 1 National Title
Kurby's first 7 seasons in the SEC -
48-9 with 2 undefeated conference records / 2 SEC Championships / 2 CFP Titles
HBC was better than Kirby in the SEC in each of their first 7 seasons and
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it ain't close
5 SEC's for HBC / 2 for KS
Steve Spurrier never beat 2 top teams in the top 4 in the last 2 weeks of the season. Kirby Smart has done it twice in consecutive years. The best 2 year span Spurrier had he has a winning % of 92.3%. Smarts best 2 years he has a 96.97% winning %. Steve Spurrier is done. Kirby Smart has several years left most likely. He has already surpassed Spurrier and is most likely only going to improve on an already impressive resume. Spurrier was a great coach but he was never as good as Smart is currently.
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 8:09 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:04 am to Lonnie Utah
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Well the last time they faced each other, who won?
What happened the last time Kirby faced Saban?
Want to actually answer the question?
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:08 am to GoldenDawg
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Wins two more what? National Championships? He's already won more National Championships than Spurrier. He has a higher winning percentage than Spurrier. He went undefeated, something Spurrier never did.
Two more what, exactly?
The two more will cover the difference in SEC championships and overall wins.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:12 am to 1801
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Spurrier's first 7 seasons in the SEC -
49-5 with 3 undefeated conference records / 5 SEC Championships / 1 National Title
Kurby's first 7 seasons in the SEC -
48-9 with 2 undefeated conference records / 2 SEC Championships / 2 CFP Titles
HBC was better than Kirby in the SEC in each of their first 7 seasons and
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it ain't close
5 SEC's for HBC / 2 for KS
I just saw that this was SEC records...I knew something was amiss LOL. Yes, Spurrier was almost as good in the SEC in his first 7 years as Smart but when compared to playing a full schedule, including bowl games etc Smart has a winning % of 84.3% in his first 7 years compared to SPurriers 83.9%....again, Smart has not only been better his first 7 years he has surpassed Steve Spurrier and it ain't close.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:14 am to koreandawg
GA fans just can't leave well enough alone. You're turning into the LSU fans, who, for some reason, feel like they have to defend their 2019 team vs. the 2023 GA team.
This is all hyperbole and chest thumping frickery.
You can;t compare coaches like Spurrier and Kirby with wins and losses. It's fricking apples and oranges. Literally. The more you dumb arse GA fans push this retarded argument, the worse you look.
Seriously.
This is all hyperbole and chest thumping frickery.
You can;t compare coaches like Spurrier and Kirby with wins and losses. It's fricking apples and oranges. Literally. The more you dumb arse GA fans push this retarded argument, the worse you look.
Seriously.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:19 am to CoachDon
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You can;t compare coaches like Spurrier and Kirby with wins and losses.
in what other way would you compare coahces from mostly 2 different eras?
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t's fricking apples and oranges. Literally.
kirby has had an exponentilaly tougher guantlet to contend wiht yearly yet already has more naitonal titles than spurrier ever had, and he didn't get his only one until year 10.
So yes I suppose it is apples and oranges.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:19 am to GoldenDawg
Spurrier has 6 SEC Titles and an ACC Title
One National Championship
Lifetime 228-89-2
Smart has 2 SEC Titles
Two National Championships
Lifetime 81-15
Smart probably is the better coach, and has the runway to maybe catch Saban, but I do not think he has "passed" Spurrier yet.
One National Championship
Lifetime 228-89-2
Smart has 2 SEC Titles
Two National Championships
Lifetime 81-15
Smart probably is the better coach, and has the runway to maybe catch Saban, but I do not think he has "passed" Spurrier yet.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:25 am to BranchDawg
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What happened the last time Kirby faced Saban?
Want to actually answer the question?
Touche'....
I guess you missed the sarcasm in my post about it...
This post was edited on 1/17/23 at 8:29 am
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:26 am to CoachDon
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You can;t compare coaches like Spurrier and Kirby with wins and losses. It's fricking apples and oranges. Literally. The more you dumb arse GA fans push this retarded argument, the worse you look.
Seriously.
We haven't always agreed with each other coach, but you pretty much just nailed it.
There's more too it than simple wins and losses...
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:28 am to AwgustaDawg
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Steve Spurrier never beat 2 top teams in the top 4 in the last 2 weeks of the season.
So what? Shane Beamer beat two top 6 teams in the last two weeks of the season. My guess is, Spurrier never had the OPPORTUNITY to go for that feat...
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:28 am to Broken Arrow
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This thread is the epitome of insecurity. “We’re pretty good but everybody please look at us and tell us how good we are”. Just sad.
This post is the epitome of jealousy and lust. Just sad.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:29 am to Lonnie Utah
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We haven't always agreed with each other coach, but you pretty much just nailed it.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:35 am to TheDeathValley
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but I do not think he has "passed" Spurrier yet.
all kidding aside and being totally honest, I agree that you can't really make a final determination after only 7 years of data on kirby.
Spurrier's entire tenure was 26 years in college so unless there is just a MASSIVE disparity, you can't really compare that to a guy whose only been doing it for 7.
I do think beyond a shadow of a doubt that when it's all said and done and kirby retires he'll clearly have overtaken him, but as of now still in year 7 I'm perfectly fine saying that it's too eraly to make the call.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:36 am to Lonnie Utah
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So what? Shane Beamer beat two top 6 teams in the last two weeks of the season. My guess is, Spurrier never had the OPPORTUNITY to go for that feat
Looks like he had that chance in in 1992 and 2001..as usual you are wrong
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:42 am to WG_Dawg
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all kidding aside and being totally honest, I agree that you can't really make a final determination after only 7 years of data on kirby.
I think one key difference (and this is not a knock at Smart) is that Spurrier inherited a routinely terrible UF team (7-5, 7-5, 6-6, 6-5) and Smart got a somewhat stacked UGA (10-3, 10-3, 8-5, 12-2). Spurrier was also somewhat successful at Duke.
Now, Smart did what Richt couldn't while also building the machine to self sustain. Unless Kelly and LSU and Heupel at Tenn start really challenging Smart in the SEC (and assuming Saban won't last forever) it is Smarts league for the next 10 years.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:51 am to AwgustaDawg
quote:not until he wins 4 more SEC trophies. Spurrier more decorated than KS through each of their first 7 seasons against SEC competition.
He has already surpassed Spurrier
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:52 am to TheDeathValley
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Smart got a somewhat stacked UGA
I think this is overstated. Our 2014 team was pretty good but a lot of the big talent ont he team left prior to kirby. 2015 was misleading as ghell becuase people simply see "10 wins!!" but don't actually look at how we did. WE had an OC taht was as bad as coley. We scored 9 points against missouri, we needed overtime to beat GA Southern. We scored 1 touchdown against tech. We got shellacked by the only 3 decent teams we played all year. In kirby's first year we started a virginia transfer at QB that would eventually lose out to a TFr. We started a transfer from rhode island at tackle. We had a lot of deficiciencies that year that we eventaully fixed iwth recruiting but that 2016 roster was not very great.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 8:55 am to Lonnie Utah
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In general, tactics support strategy. In one you're reacting to your opponent. The other, your opponent is reacting to you.
Well. Our strategy is to recruit dozens of players to make us multiple.
In our case, the strategy supports the tactics.
Watch the 2017 defense with roquan Smith.
Watch the 2018 defense.
Watch 2021 and 2022 defenses.
We are continually redefining ourselves.
We use the multiple personnel different weekly because our strategy is built to this very same goal in mind.
Evidence?
UGA outscored opponents 334 to 104 in the first half of games in 2022.
Offensively and defensively, opponents were unprepared for the looks and formations.
Further evidence?
When UGA needed scores late in games:
MIZZOU: UGA made halftime adjustments and outscored Mizzou 20-6 in the last 23 minutes of the game.
Every drive was a scoring drive by UGA (2 FGs and 2 TDs)
OHIO: UGA made adjustments and outscored Ohio 18-3 in the 4th quarter. Every drive was a scoring drive by UGA (1 FG and 2 TDs).
1/10/22 NCG against Bama
UGA made adjustments and outscored Bama 20-9 in the 4th quarter (20-0 after the Bama score off the turnover).
Every drive was a scoring drive (3 TDs).
The key to UGAs recent success has been the ability to be like water.
Quick game and RPO.
Inside Zone and RPO
Counter/Power and Playaction
Outside zone and flood routes
Mint front defense
Even front defense
Line of scrimmage pressure with slants and stunts.
Exterior blitzes off the edges.
A Gap blitzing team.
Rush 3 and spy 1 defense.
There will be a vulnerability of the opponent and we have the diversity of talent and scheme to punch it.
Posted on 1/17/23 at 9:01 am to GoldenDawg
I mean Kirby convinced a bunch of 5* and 4* players that were the defending National Champs that everyone thought they sucked. Thats damn good coaching.
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