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re: Grant Wahl Died of a Burst Blood Vessel, His Family Says

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Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
569 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:29 am to
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Dr. Rand Paul says hi.


Dr. Rand Paul is not blindly linking every unexplained death he can find on the covid shot.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54183 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:30 am to
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but I don’t want you misinforming others.
like claiming no other vaccine gives the manufacture immunity?

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If the Pharma companies are intentionally negligent they can be sued themselves still.
There is no such thing as intentional negligence. By the way, nothing gives covid vaccine manufacturers immunity for any willful misconduct.

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Are other vaccines included? Yes
Which was my point. Covid manufacturers haven’t received some special immunity that hasn’t been around for vaccine manufacturers for years.

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None of these other vaccines have ever been mandated to the public and forced upon us by forcing companies to have vaccinated employees.
I never was and still am not in favor of vaccine mandates. I haven’t argued and wouldn’t argue the effectiveness of the vaccine or the benefit of any mandates. It appears by my very limited knowledge that the initial vaccines aren’t nearly as effective against the mutated strains that dominate now.

I simply pointed out you were ignorant about how manufacturers of vaccines, not just covid vaccines, have had immunity for decades.


This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 10:35 am
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21699 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:31 am to
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1. Stop trying to group people who against the Covid vaccine as against anti vaccine. My family is fully vaccinated.
2. You are doing the same thing the person earlier did. You are strictly siting doctors and scientists who are incentivized and go on TV. That’s the same as saying the people in the 50s should’ve trusted the doctors on tv that said smoking is perfectly safe. Ask 10 local doctors if you should get the vaccine. I have. 8 out of 10 said don’t get it.
3. The argument that those who disagree with you must be dumber than you just makes everyone question your intelligence. Every single level of intelligence has people on both sides of this issue.



1. You've bought into this political/internet click bait that there's something special about the covid vaccine. It's 100+ year old technology.
2. I'm "siting" the overwhelming majority of doctors.
3. I know you'd love to believe that, but counting outliers won't get you far.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
11339 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:31 am to
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And he's holding his hand out to those of you I was talking about.
Just two more weeks to flatten the curve bro.

#saferapart #maskup #jabstoprotectgrandma
Posted by tgdawg68
Georgia
Member since Dec 2019
569 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:31 am to
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You probably disagree but there are institutions of higher learning all across the country proving that more education doesn't necessarily make you smart.


May be some truth to that but I'm more apt to trust the opinion of an MD graduate over many many posters on this site.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:32 am to
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Dr. Rand Paul is not blindly linking every unexplained death he can find on the covid shot.


I think most arguing against the vaccine in this thread and I know most arguing against it in the country don’t subscribe to that. Your resorts the “lowest common denominator” argument to try to use the dumbest arguments a few make on one side make the entire side look dumb. We all have iPhones now. We can research anything in 5 seconds of typing and 5-10 minutes of reading. That style of arguing is stale and outdated.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3812 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:32 am to
COVID WAS MADE IN A LAB FUNDED BY ANTHONY FAUCI
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54183 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:33 am to
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1. Stop trying to group people who against the Covid vaccine as anti vaccine.
Did you not just group people that are disagreeing with you all together as joy Reid watchers? Get some self awareness.
Posted by UltimaParadox
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2008
40885 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:34 am to
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We can research anything in 5 seconds of typing and 5-10 minutes of reading.


That I agree with, it is painfully obvious by your talking points
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:41 am to
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1. You've bought into this political/internet click bait that there's something special about the covid vaccine. It's 100+ year old technology.


Once again you are assuming I unequivocally think the Covid vaccine is dangerous. You’re trying to use other people’s arguments from this thread that, I do not agree with, as my argument. I don’t know if bad things will come from this vaccine or not. I do know Covid wasn’t nearly as dangerous as it was made to be. I do know that, as much as they could, they mandated the vaccine. I do know, I do not trust the people that created the vaccine or that mandated it. I do know that vaccines typically take 10-15 years to develop and test before they are released to the public, sited below. I do believe that the people in charge knew the virus wasn’t as dangerous as they made it and they used it to control the American people. I do believe that like we are now mostly agreed as a nation that the Bush Administration tricked us into the Iraq War that 10-20 years from now the majority of Americans will agree that we were tricked again for an agenda that made politicians and their friends billions.

10-15 years before a traditional vaccine is rolled out to the public.

Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:43 am to
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Did you not just group people that are disagreeing with you all together as joy Reid watchers? Get some self awareness.


I specifically called you a Joy Reid watcher. Not all that disagree with me. I think those who watch MSNBC every night are a lot easier to spot these days than those who watch CNN or Fox or none of them.
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
16193 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:45 am to
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You're a fricking moron


That's a result of Covid.. not the vaccine.


I'm glad most of your parents weren't this fricking dumb. It must have been the leaded gasoline. If it was up to you morons we'd still have smallpox.


He can't help you're too stupid to recognize that you're being told something is COVID but it's really the vaccine. Just look into the side effects of the vaccine. This is not hard. There are tons of pages from Pfizer alone that show these things are incredibly dangerous, but go ahead and keep your head buried in the sand so you can continue with your false belief that you were correct about the vaccines.
Posted by jryanw
Bham, AL
Member since Dec 2013
4612 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:47 am to
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That I agree with, it is painfully obvious by your talking points


I’m serious about this stuff. I’m not trolling like I normally do to fire up other fanbases. I’m heavily researched everything I have said except for the CICP stuff that was sited, incorrectly I might add, to argue against my points. My wife was terrified of this crap for a year because the local news figured out she would watch them for 2 hours every morning if they kept talking about it. I don’t trust a word a news anchor says until I check the facts myself.
Posted by blackrose890
Fayetteville, AR
Member since Apr 2009
6315 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:49 am to
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According to whom? How does anyone even think they are getting statistics that are not fudged by someone with a rooting interest?


I'm going to guess this is another whopper from Dr. MALHOTRA
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54183 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:49 am to
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I specifically called you a Joy Reid watcher. Not all that disagree with me
really? This comment has nothing to do with me.

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This argument is wasted on these idiots that watch Joy Reid every night. They can’t even imagine doctors on their side being wrong. ...


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I think those who watch MSNBC every night are a lot easier to spot these days than those who watch CNN or Fox or none of them.
I corrected your ignorance around manufacturer immunity and you think I’m a joy Reid watcher? I don’t watch any of them. Maybe you should rethink all of your assumptions.

This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 10:51 am
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21699 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:50 am to
You "know" a lot.

I'm not going to ask for sources on all that.

But, as far as your vaccine testing thing - Car manufacturers have to undergo lots of safety testing for every new model. But, if we needed them to, they could crank out a new basic model in very short order that would have no issues passing safety tests later.

Anyway, this thread is a shining example of why I've begun to hate this site, and most of the internet. I'll be seeing myself out. It's almost lunch time.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37574 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:53 am to
I got Covid and took ivermectin. Was in the gym on the squat rack 24 hours later.

Watching the jabbed and boosted getting Covid while waiting for Dr Fauci to tell them what to do next is motherfricking hilarious
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41729 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:57 am to
I don't think the vaccine is as bad as conservatives would have you believe, while I do think it was fairly useless which the liberals won't admit to.

It did suck arse how the left tried to not allow people to use drugs that were helpful when people got sick. People should go to prison for that.
This post was edited on 12/15/22 at 10:59 am
Posted by Teague
The Shoals, AL
Member since Aug 2007
21699 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:57 am to
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I got Covid and took ivermectin. Was in the gym on the squat rack 24 hours later.


I hope you took another dose a couple of weeks later. The first dose will kill the worms, but any eggs will not be killed. They'll hatch and you'll be right back to square one.
Posted by LuciusSulla
Oxford, MS
Member since Nov 2010
2703 posts
Posted on 12/15/22 at 10:59 am to
[quote]It's hard to tell because these things can also happen naturally.

But if you are trying to suggest that what happened to him isn't a possible side effect of the vaccine, you are wrong.

LINK ]

Holy hell, not only can you not actually understand a manuscript, you apparently can't even Cmnd+F to see if the word "vaccine" is even used once in the article you are citing as evidence for health complications from vaccines.
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