re: Grant Wahl Died of a Burst Blood Vessel, His Family Says

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Personal experience is an awful data point, absolutely worthless, does not help out

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I guess we'll have to agree to disagree there.

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1. The polio vaccine, and every other vaccine for that matter, went through the normal process of being developed. It wasn’t sped through by multiple companies that had incentive to be first.

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Let's check history before making these claims...

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In April 1955 more than 200 000 children in five Western and mid-Western USA states received a polio vaccine in which the process of inactivating the live virus proved to be defective. Within days there were reports of paralysis and within a month the first mass vaccination programme against polio had to be abandoned. Subsequent investigations revealed that the vaccine, manufactured by the California-based family firm of Cutter Laboratories, had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10.

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CICP does.

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Does it only apply to covid? Or, were you Wrong in pretending the covid vaccine is treated differently than other vaccines?

But you are right, I got my VICP and CICP mixed up.

Since the 80s manufacturers of vaccines have always been protected and victims were compensated under these programs. Covid vaccines aren’t unique in that aspect.

The Infectious Disease doctor i work with knows the guy from Vanderbilt that developed the mRNA vaccine technology. He tells me that it was lucky we've been working on the tech for 10 years and was able to deploy it for COVID. Tells me China has been trying to hack/steal the tech the past years as they can't openly admit that the western vaccine is better than the shite they use. I work here in West Texas, the energy capital of the US.

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Does it only apply to covid? Or, were you Wrong in pretending the covid vaccine is treated differently than other vaccines? But you are right, I got my VICP and CICP mixed up. Since the 80s manufacturers of vaccines have always been protected and victims were compensated under these programs. Covid vaccines aren’t unique in that aspect. This post was edited on 12/15 at 10:08

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I don’t even care to argue with you anymore but I don’t want you misinforming others. I know we are getting less and less likely to actually read and just trust someone who spits talking points that reinforce our beliefs so your statements are dangerous so I will rebuttal again.
I don’t believe you that you mixed them up. I think you intentionally submitted VICP because if anyone reads the link I posted about CICP they’ll see they will get basically nothing and they are fighting alone against our government to try and get compensated.
VICP somewhat protects Pharma companies but it doesn’t give them full immunity. The government foots the bill under most circumstances but it’s enough money to have entire law firms dedicated to suing the government for it. If the Pharma companies are intentionally negligent they can be sued themselves still. Under CICP, they cut your timeframe for starting the process down from 3 years from the vaccine to 1 year. Are other vaccines included? Yes, and I will list them below. None of these other vaccines have ever been mandated to the public and forced upon us by forcing companies to have vaccinated employees. Here is the list so that can be fact checked:
COVID-19
Marburg
Ebola
Nerve Agents and Certain Insecticides (Organophophorus and/or Carbamate)
Zika
Pandemic Influenza
Anthrax
Acute Radiation Syndrome
Botulinum Toxin
Smallpox

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My advice to the anti-vaccine crowd: Think back to high school. Remember how you were far from the top of your class? Remember those really smart kids that went on to become doctors? Well, those kids spent another 8+ years learning in college, then several more years doing a residency before even becoming doctors. And, then however more years of actual experience they have. Those people still know more than you and whatever youtube propaganda you're falling for.

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Dr. Rand Paul says hi.

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My advice to the anti-vaccine crowd: Think back to high school. Remember how you were far from the top of your class? Remember those really smart kids that went on to become doctors? Well, those kids spent another 8+ years learning in college, then several more years doing a residency before even becoming doctors. And, then however more years of actual experience they have. Those people still know more than you and whatever youtube propaganda you're falling for.

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1. Stop trying to group people who against the Covid vaccine as anti vaccine. My family is fully vaccinated.
2. You are doing the same thing the person earlier did. You are strictly siting doctors and scientists who are incentivized and go on TV. That’s the same as saying the people in the 50s should’ve trusted the doctors on tv that said smoking is perfectly safe. Ask 10 local doctors if you should get the vaccine. I have. 8 out of 10 said don’t get it.
3. The argument that those who disagree with you must be dumber than you just makes everyone question your intelligence. Every single level of intelligence has people on both sides of this issue.

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Dr. Rand Paul says hi.

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And he's holding his hand out to those of you I was talking about.

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Sometimes that normal developing process involves infecting 20% of the patients with the disease you're trying to prevent. If you want to hold it up as the gold standard for vaccine inventing, you have to acknowledge a lot of eggs got broken to make that omelet.

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Once again, when that is done those people are compensated and they sign up for the risk.( I’m not going to go into the moral grey area there because it will derail this entire thread even more.)That’s completely different from public being forced to take it. If it’s forced on us then any percentage of “broken eggs,” as you so eloquently put it, is too much.