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re: Good Read on Jimbo in the Jax Paper today

Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:50 pm to
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 9:50 pm to
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Dabo didn't get a double digit win season until year 4.


Jimbo doesn’t get to play NC State, Boston College, and Wake Forest all in a row in conference

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Saban went 7-5 and 6-6 in his 3rd and 4th year at MSU.


They were under sanctions and there’s a reason he bailed on Sparty, as much as I would like to think it’s because Mike the Tiger is just that charming, I know that’s not the case.
Posted by Mithridates6
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 10:22 pm to
A&M should just buy FSU's crystal ball; God knows the Noles need the money
Posted by Capstone2017
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Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:54 pm to
For A&M the obvious answer is no. I do think Miles would have been pretty successful at say Michigan or USC.
Posted by Feral
Member since Mar 2012
12405 posts
Posted on 10/8/20 at 11:54 pm to
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Love this Quote from Mullen while at Moo state
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“We had a great year,” said Mullen. “We beat Florida. We beat Georgia. We beat Michigan in a bowl game. And we finished ranked 15th in the nation and finished fifth in the [SEC] West.”



Hog fans could do it one better.

In 2011 we finished 11-2 and #5 in the country...and 3rd in the SEC West.
Posted by Switzerland
Member since Jun 2008
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:14 am to
People don't realize how much Sumlin ran A&M into the ground. He was cancer. A&M had a whooping 5 players drafted this year. If Sumlin can be described in one word its Mond. That's why Jimbo got a 10 year guaranteed contract. Everyone knew it would takes years for Jimbo to get A&M on the right track. Given the lack of talent and all the drama going on off the field, Jimbo's done pretty well so far.

And if you think I'm some kind of faggie homer, look at my posting history.
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:24 am to
LSU fan through and through, but in a hypothetical things go right for a team scenario... the aggies scare me more then any other school in the SEC. No history to back this because they have never had everything click for them.. I just think they have the most natural advantages and resources over everyone. They just haven’t capitalized

They aren’t as far off as everyone thinks... let the man build his system. He was left with pretty much no assets when he got the job. Also it probably takes a while to adjust to coming back to the SEC after so many years at FSU.
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 2:35 am
Posted by tattoo
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:42 am to
In the 11 years from 2008-2018 Bama was undefeated in the reg season 4 times, lost 1 reg season game 6 times (4 of those 6 losses were to 2 NCs and 2 other NC participants), was 6-1 in SECC games, but won only 6 SEC championships - but they won 5 NCs. Twice they tied for the SEC West but could not rep the West in the SECC game. They won the SEC or NC in 8 years, twice winning the NC without winning the SEC. 3 of the 11 years they did not win the SECC or NC: 08, 10, 13.

The SEC is tough.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 4:03 am to
The Aggies are built for this season. Let them play folks. Losing to this Alabama team is going to be a common trait. Jimbo has recruited very well and frankly, they are a Florida win away from getting this program to another level in the west. And that was the expectation all along. Saturday is a big, big, day for TAMU.
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 4:29 am to
Dabo and Saban’s year “4” were essentially true year 4 for them as coaches (actually Nick’s 5th). Jimbo was 83-23 at FSU in a shite league. Let that sink in for a minute. He suffered several humiliating losses , giving up 50 plus a few times (sound familiar) between 2015–2017. His teams played with no heart, little discipline and gave up when down in the late second quarter (again, sound familiar). He is all talk and now runs an archaic offense that is behind the times in terms of college football and NFL preparation. Frankly, we dodged a bullet. He will never win 10 regular season games at TAM and never take you to Atlanta. He doesn’t have the drive, discipline or fight in him at this point to do so.
Posted by rlp
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
650 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 4:52 am to
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He'll be gone in three years.


Not with his guaranteed $75 million... buyout is still YUGE
Posted by FLObserver
Jacksonville
Member since Nov 2005
14449 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 4:53 am to
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Dabo didn't get a double digit win season until year 4.

Most be Aggie Logic when comparing the mighty ACC to the Sec West
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
8623 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:00 pm to
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He has two classes that are his and the second one didn't even have a spring.

I remember the same reasoning from the Charlie Strong apologists not too long ago.

Comparing the two is probably apples and oranges, but it's not like we guaranteed 75 mil over 10 years for that dud.
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:04 pm to
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Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:07 pm to
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People don't realize how much Sumlin ran A&M into the ground. He was cancer.


Ok if you want to take this stance fine, but you can't give Fisher a free pass for the shite show FSU is then. He left when FSU was 5-6 and have completely tanked since. It was already trending downward under his watch.
Posted by XWing atAliciousness
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:35 pm to
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People don't realize how much Sumlin ran A&M into the ground. He was cancer. A&M had a whooping 5 players drafted this year. If Sumlin can be described in one word its Mond.

Maybe, but I think it's not so much Sumlin making it worse as much as it was him not being able to take advantage of what he had in his favor. When he started, A&M had Johnny win the heisman, finished top 10 and looked like they could be a bonafide contender for the SEC West 2013 and beyond.

In contrast, not only was every team in Texas bad (exception of maybe Baylor), they were all declining. And then Sumlin knocked it out of the park with some of his 2014 recruit signings. Everything was there for A&M to become the premier Texas college football team, while all the other Power 5 programs would've regressed to, well, early-mid 2000s A&M when they had no greatness or prospects of such. They had it right there to leave everyone in the dust.

Then 59-0 happened.

Sumlin's biggest problem was his ceiling was too low. He could beat the teams he was supposed to at A&M, but struggled immensely with the big games. That equates to 0 breakthrough.
Posted by Jkandcrew
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 10/9/20 at 12:38 pm to
Spot on analysis
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
37519 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:24 pm to
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Sumlin's biggest problem was his ceiling was too low. He could beat the teams he was supposed to at A&M, but struggled immensely with the big games.


Breathtaking analysis
Posted by r2d2
Member since Dec 2006
6842 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 1:29 pm to
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I just think they have the most natural advantages and resources over everyone. They just haven’t capitalized



That's been the narrative for decades but it's really not true. They have access to talent and have resources... but not significantly more than 25-35 other programs out there.

Texas has good players but not any better than other recruiting hotbeds. Evidence may point it may be a step behind recently.

Money they have but not significantly more than the big dogs. For a business to really be at a completely different playing field over its competition it has to have revenues at least five times more, usually 10 times more, to be in position to truly just outspend their competitors. Across several industries the company with the highest revenue isn’t the most profitable or valuable necessarily. Yeah they could outspend UAB but not 6 or 7 other programs in the SEC. Not even close.

They could at some point field a championship team I'm not saying that its impossible; but this idea it’s inevitable is just a farce. They really have no more potential than say Oklahoma State or Arkansas.
This post was edited on 10/9/20 at 2:59 pm
Posted by t - cam
Dallas
Member since Sep 2012
332 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 2:53 pm to
You guys think Jimbo thought he would take Kevin sumlins team and move immediately into the 2nd spot in the west? He knew what was ahead of him and most honest Aggies did to.
Posted by TheWhitemamba16
Dallas
Member since Sep 2018
1063 posts
Posted on 10/9/20 at 9:00 pm to
I think they are absolutely in the top 15 in the nation not 25-30.

Dude the aggies don’t even have to be a business. The boosters there as so insane about the program they’ll spend 75 million time and time again until it works. They don’t care about the cost. They will eat as many contracts as it takes to win eventually.
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