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re: Georgia offers job to Thad Matta - decision in 24 hours

Posted on 3/13/18 at 3:43 pm to
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
13080 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 3:43 pm to
Motta was a good HC in his younger years. IF he can recruit and recapture his vigor, he could be a great fit at UGA. But SECMBB has been on the rise and a mediocre recruiting effort wont cut it in today's SEC.
Posted by Croot
Member since Aug 2013
4139 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 4:01 pm to
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mediocre effort wont cut it in today's SEC


LSU fans know this all too well.
Posted by molardog1
Member since Dec 2017
1749 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 4:49 pm to
UGA finally about to get serious about hoops and will have the 2nd highest paid coach in the SEC.

Rest of SEC sans UK is fricked.

Posted by dawgfan24348
Member since Oct 2011
49264 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 5:36 pm to
If Matta can successfully recruit the Atlanta area and stay healthy Georgia is going to be really good
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:08 pm to
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Yea, what is the worst case scenario, he comes in and has 2 teams that go 19-13, signs a few decent recruiting classes then has to retire because of the pain stuff?

I mean, if that is the WORST CASE scenario with a guy and the best case is the rest of the his career.........seems like a no-brainer to me.


This is pretty much my thought... all the "risk" in this are essentially just kicking the can down the road 2 years or so... which is more or less what we did with Fox since 2014... we're used to that. The upside to this is so ridiculously high, that our AD would have to be brain dead not to make the hire if he's interested. If the ~3.x mill number is correct as well, that seems more than fair relative to what the rest of the league is paying and the quality of coach we're bringing in. The basketball program netted $3M in profits in 2016-2017 (haven't seen figures for this year yet but would imagine similar if not slightly better), so you've got room in the budget to bump the pay up from the 2.15M or so we were paying Fox without getting out of the black - and that's before accounting for increased/renewed interest in the basketball program that typically accompanies a solid hire...

Me whenever the official official announcement gets made (since apparently insiders are saying it's unofficially officially a done deal... )...

Posted by GeorgiaFlyer
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2014
1618 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:16 pm to
We on the rise fellas!
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:17 pm to
Freaking love his attitude in the remarks from this column: LINK /

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However, Matta said other coaches have used his health against him on the recruiting front in the past eight seasons.

“Somebody told a recruit I was dying,” Matta said. “Swear to God. Not that my foot doesn’t lift, but I was going to die. Tough business I’m in.”

He added that the recruit’s father then called him saying that the recruit was going to delay the announcement of his commitment because of health issues. When Matta asked the father what was wrong, he told Matta it was not the recruit’s health, it was Matta’s.

“He said, ‘Well it’s your health. You’re going to die.’ I said, ‘I’ve never missed a day of work, I’ve never missed a day of recruiting, I’ve never missed a game,” Matta said.




Also, thought it was interesting to note that his *worst* team in 13 years is more or less equivalent to what we got out of Fox *on average*.

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OSU is currently in one of its worst seasons, record-wise, since Matta began coaching OSU 13 years ago. The Buckeyes are 17-14, 7-11 in the Big Ten, and playing on the first day of the Big Ten tournament as one of the bottom four teams in the conference.

With the team likely to miss the NCAA Tournament for the second straight year for the first time since Matta took the job, the criticism of the coach and the direction of the program is warranted, but Matta affirmed that his health isn’t any reason to step down from the job at this point.

“Somebody asked me today if I wanted to put out a statement, I said, ‘I could care less. You don’t need to do that,’” he said.
Posted by Jorts R Us
Member since Aug 2013
14811 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:25 pm to
Good move. What does UGA really have to lose?
Posted by reel_gator8
Seminole,Fl
Member since May 2012
11060 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:32 pm to
Good luck....I like seeing good coaches in the SEC...a lot of asshats on this board hope or try to predict who fails in the NCAA...they haven't a clue how much every win helps the conference.

Those asshats will be the first to cry if their team is on the bubble and left out because only six SEC teams made it. We need to be drawing eight or even nine teams every damn year.

I will pull for every SEC team unless they play UF.
Posted by fibonaccisquared
The mystical waters of the Hooch
Member since Dec 2011
16898 posts
Posted on 3/13/18 at 10:36 pm to
Yeah... it's funny... Football has become a bit of a zero sum game in that regard... a loss for rivals is a win for you - whether that's recruiting or on the field...

Because of the volume of teams that make the tournament, conference perception means a *shitload* more come tournament selection time... If football were to expand beyond 4 teams, I imagine you'd see a bit more of this in football as well, but still probably not as much as basketball...
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27297 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 1:56 am to
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Maybe in football


Maybe???You guys aren't close

Not in total D1's or blue chips as well and that list was from a Buckeye messaget board.

quote:

not true at all in basketball


Yes, it's very much true

Basketball really isn't close either
This post was edited on 3/14/18 at 1:59 am
Posted by GenesChin
The Promise Land
Member since Feb 2012
37706 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 2:50 am to
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but not true at all in basketball


The last time Ohio had more ESPN top 100 recruits was the 2013 class, which is the only time in the past decade. Most years GA has significantly more top 100 players as well

You're delusional if you think OH has better basketball talent than GA



Not to mention that OSU has Xavier, Cincy and Dayton all in state to compete with. Two of those programs reside in Cincy which is part of OH's most fertile bball recruiting
Posted by GatorsGators
Member since Oct 2012
13454 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 3:31 am to
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Yea, what is the worst case scenario, he comes in and has 2 teams that go 19-13, signs a few decent recruiting classes then has to retire because of the pain stuff?

Worst-case scenario is that he's healthy enough to be able to coach but is neutered by all of the negative recruiting that's bound to happen, leading to a few mediocre classes and seasons, leaving Georgia on the hook for a shitload of money.

If he gets Mark Fox results at twice the cost, then that'll be a problem. UGA wouldn't fire him.
Posted by kywildcatfanone
Wildcat Country!
Member since Oct 2012
119120 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 5:15 am to
He would be likely the best they could do.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:19 am to
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If he gets Mark Fox results at twice the cost, then that'll be a problem.


Fox made a little north of $2M this season. Matta will (presumably) start of a little north of $3M. Not nearly "twice the cost", and you are guanrateed to see higher returns in season ticket and gate sales generated.

Also IMO it would honestly be hard for Matta to only get Fox results. I mean they are worlds apart in just about every way; personality, recruiting, coaching philosophies, etc.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
37614 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:22 am to
Wellllll ... is it Matta or Kermit?
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25876 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:23 am to
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Kermit?

has not been linked to Georgia at this point.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86468 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 8:25 am to
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Wellllll ... is it Matta or Kermit?


outside of a few hot boards kermit has never even been mentioned. As of about 3 or 4 days ago it's been 100% thad and most people suspect it's already a done deal essentially.
Posted by HailToTheChiz
Back in Auburn
Member since Aug 2010
48939 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:31 am to
has it been 24 hours yet?
Posted by JoseyWalesTheOutlaw
In The Ham
Member since Nov 2017
11661 posts
Posted on 3/14/18 at 10:51 am to
UGA has patience....after all it seems like only yesterday that is was 1980 in Athens
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