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re: Freshman admission at Ole Miss is exploding
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:48 pm to Geopardee
Posted on 6/14/25 at 3:48 pm to Geopardee
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you are a strong in-state student they will absolutely shower you with $ and scholarship
Truth. I don't have the details of the financing source but OM is outbidding MSU for academic only students that MSU has heavily recruited.
Just reporting what is going on. I don't have a dog in that fight.
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Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:24 pm to anc
USM must have raised admission standards
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:42 pm to LSUTigresFan
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You could argue that the information on the syllabus, as far as course objectives are concerned, is the same, but the rigor to achieve an A at a top school is much more difficult than the rigor at a lower-ranked school. This is first-hand experience btw.
The rigor in Organic is about the same, because nearly all of the students are trying to get into med school or become researchers. Even schools like Memphis have very tough science programs, because they want med schools to respect their curriculum and accept their students. Memphis sends a lot of Chemistry and Biology majors to UT Med in Memphis.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 4:47 pm to Gifman
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They literally don’t turn anyone away
We literally have the same admission standards
Posted on 6/14/25 at 5:06 pm to Auburn80
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It is more money but I think it hurts them academic ranking wise. Bama has dropped in rankings since they started chasing OOS kids. Not sure about Ole Miss. Auburn is growing also but they still limit their total enrollment.
I don’t know, something must be wrong if Bama consistently leads the nation in National Merit Scholars - about 1/3 of all incoming freshmen.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:03 pm to Cimarron
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The rigor in Organic is about the same, because nearly all of the students are trying to get into med school or become researchers. Even schools like Memphis have very tough science programs, because they want med schools to respect their curriculum and accept their students. Memphis sends a lot of Chemistry and Biology majors to UT Med in Memphis.
You really are just making this up as you go.
I just looked at a syllabus from Arizona State University and compared it to UT Austin, UT's organic chemistry has exams (3 midterms and 1 final) where a student has the option to drop 1 midterm and the two highest midterms is 50% of your grade. The final is worth 30% of grade and the remaining. Daily quizzes worth 10% and homeworks worth 10%.
ASU has quizzes (8%), homework (14%), class assignments (8%), 3 midterm exams, and 1 final exam (30%). ASU also drops the lowest midterm exam grade (40%).
An A at ASU is 90% or higher
An A at UT Austin is 93% or higher.
You shouldnt make stuff up and say things are the same when they are not.
Posted on 6/14/25 at 6:13 pm to Geopardee
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If you are a strong in-state student they will absolutely shower you with $ and scholarships.
Sadly, then a good number of those student end up moving out of state to ATL, Nashville, Dallas, etc.
Also helps that OM is (relatively) close to a lot of large population centers in the Southeast.
Have a son (MS resident) who did very well in high school and ACT testing. He basically is getting paid to go to Ole Miss. Very happy with how Ole Miss has treated him.
This post was edited on 6/14/25 at 6:14 pm
Posted on 6/14/25 at 7:37 pm to RelentlessTide
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don’t know, something must be wrong if Bama consistently leads the nation in National Merit Scholars - about 1/3 of all incoming freshmen.
Not all schools go after NMS’s and not all schools offer free rides to them. Some very good students don’t participate in it also. With a 70% admission rate you’re taking a lot of kids that are not Merit Scholars.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:07 am to Govt Tide
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I will concede Auburn as the top rated school in the state and there are reasons for that but both Auburn and Alabama were ranked almost dead even as recently as 7 or 8 years ago. Both were among the Top 50 public schools in the country at that time. Auburn has fared significantly better in the U.S. News rankings though since as you mentioned they changed their ranking criteria My point was that the metrics of Alabama's qualifty of incoming freshment (Avg ACT/SAT scores, GPA, etc) has improved dramatically the last few years. In fact, Alabama's avg or median ACT/SAT for incoming freshmen was a tenth of a point behind Auburn's last I looked up the stats a couple of years ago yet Auburn has only modestly dropped a few spots from their highest US News rankings a few years ago compared to Alabama which has dropped significantly more in the US News rankings since their highest ranking about 10 years ago. Auburn will always have an advantage over "UAT" in these rankings because the AU system is basically all on the main Auburn campus whereas the UA system is spread out over three distinct 4 year universities with UAB and UAH. Auburn only has AUM which is basically a relatively small satellite branch of the main campus and doesn't dilute resources and academic programs away from Auburn's main campus the way that UAB and UAH do from the main UA campus in Tuscaloosa.
I understand that the UAT/UAB situation is quite unique. Let’s ignore the in-state ranking for a moment, UAT still dropped dramatically in just a few years. I think UAT’s low 6-year graduation rate is a major factor for its overall low ranking, among some other factors.
“In 2019, U.S. News increased the weight given to graduation and retention rates, including the six-year graduation rate, from 30% to 35% of the overall ranking calculation. This means that universities with higher six-year graduation rates will generally see a positive impact on their ranking within the U.S. News system”
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 7:08 am
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:28 am to BurgTiger
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Academics HATE this reality.
They also like to complain about how much $ is spent on athletics - without acknowledging the fact that most major college athletic programs are self funding through the revenue sports. So.... football pays the bills for athletics AND brings attention (applicants) to the schools.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 10:48 am to anc
Lots of John Campbell Quessenberrys and Mary Palmer Penningtons inbound
Posted on 6/16/25 at 11:05 am to TigerLunatik
my math was so bad that i made a 26 in science and a 27 in language and still only made a 19
thats what happens when you dont admit you can't see the board and need glasses lol
thats what happens when you dont admit you can't see the board and need glasses lol
This post was edited on 6/16/25 at 11:06 am
Posted on 6/16/25 at 1:34 pm to CouldCareLess
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That's cause it only takes an ACT score of 18 to enroll. Lots of dumb kids have no choice, they cant get in anywhere else.
State controls minimum standards, so it’s the perfect storm of affordability, easy to get in, centrally located, SEC school, etc. checks all the boxes as a destination school and fall back school all at the same time. It’s why you have so many TX, GA, CA, FL, NJ, etc kids coming because they didn’t get into their top school or didn’t get any scholarships.
I loved getting to meet and be friends with people from all over the country while I was in school there, but of course it led to some dumbasses being there too that had no business being at a 4 year school.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:24 pm to LSUTigresFan
Because one program has a slightly different grading scale than another is statistically insignificant.
You apparently never took Statistics or Elementary Logic. I know you didn't take OC.
You apparently never took Statistics or Elementary Logic. I know you didn't take OC.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 7:30 pm to LSUTigresFan
18 isn’t the average, it’s about 23-4.
Maybe in Mississippi…
Maybe in Mississippi…
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:49 pm to geaux2019
The national avg last year was 19.4.
Mississippi and Louisiana were 17.7 and 18.2 respectively. Seems far off from your made up statistic.
Mississippi and Louisiana were 17.7 and 18.2 respectively. Seems far off from your made up statistic.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 8:54 pm to Cimarron
Haha. I never took statistics or “elementary logic” is cute.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:02 pm to AUreo
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six-year graduation rate
Six? I remember when it was four.
Get off my lawn.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:03 pm to anc
Texas, Tennessee, and UGA rejects are really desperate to make it to the 25 million dollar player investment “Tax Slayer Bowl” wine mixer.
Posted on 6/16/25 at 9:12 pm to pankReb
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How many times do we have to keep repeating to you idiots that the requirements are set by the state and apply to all state-funded institutions?
If anyone is interested in this kind of thing, just do a quick search for the Ayres Case in Mississippi .
Ayres v Fordice began in 1975 & the final settlement came in 2002.
For this thread, just know that one result was that every public university in MS has to have the same admission standards (it was an ACT score of 9 at some schools, pre-ruling)
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