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re: Former Alabama player Will Lowery explains why some Alabama players fail

Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:45 pm to
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:45 pm to
"They mean it never sees the light of day in the public."

If ANY student commits a crime, it's reported in the newspaper. If their behavior is bad, but doesn't reach the level of a crime, they may be punished, but nothing is publicized...what's wrong about that?
Posted by Korin
Member since Jan 2014
37935 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 5:11 pm to
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Well we both know what people think of your intelligence on this website, so it's not like you're an authority either.

I actually attended Alabama. When a football player got in trouble it was big news. They plastered that shite all over the school newspaper and the Tuscaloosa News.

He thinks stuff like that only happens at Bama and not LSU.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64584 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 5:56 pm to
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"They mean it never sees the light of day in the public."

If ANY student commits a crime, it's reported in the newspaper. If their behavior is bad, but doesn't reach the level of a crime, they may be punished, but nothing is publicized...what's wrong about that?

again, I was only clarifying what he meant by the term "sweeping it under the rug." The remainder of everything you said is irrelevant. I never said I believe Alabama does or doesn't sweep things under the rug and even said as much. Try actually reading my post before getting offended.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 6:12 pm to
I stand corrected.
Posted by RainKing96
Member since Jul 2017
810 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 6:46 pm to
I don't care what them boys do after they play out their time at Bama. As long as they win the games I care about what they do in the NFL don't bother me one bit. They grown men and coach can only do what he can do when they here. After that its on them.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 4/14/18 at 7:01 pm to
Amen. Most of those kids had opportunities available to them that they wouldn't possibly have had doing something else. At UA, Saban all but MAKES them become responsible, successful adults. For the few that drop through the cracks...it's on them.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:33 am to
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Can assure you its 100% the former. The support system in place is as remarkable as the rest of what Saban‘s built. Its close to a military academy..many players’ entire days are scheduled from early wakeup to tutors after dinner. Some struggle once they leave that.See Ro McClain


Basically, Alabama players are extremely immature due to the fact that Saban restricts everything they do while there for 3-4 years. Once they get out from under the Gestapo regime, they go nuts.

Similar to kids who have been raised in a very strict household and then go off the deep end once they move out.
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 10:39 am to
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At UA, Saban all but MAKES them become responsible


Lowery says the opposite. Responsibility isn’t a choice under Saban. You have to follow his strict protocol, not because you want to, but because you have to.

Once they leave, they don’t have that supervision, and mistakes start piling up. Saban basically removes the ability for those kids to learn from their own mistakes and they leave Alabama unprepared for unsupervised life.

You couple that with a huge payday, and huge problems start to show up in their lives.


This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 10:40 am
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 11:24 am to
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quote:
At UA, Saban all but MAKES them become responsible


Lowery says the opposite. Responsibility isn’t a choice under Saban. You have to follow his strict protocol, not because you want to, but because you have to.

Isn't that pretty such exactly what I said?
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 5:40 pm to
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At UA, Saban all but MAKES them become responsible.


They should learn responsibilty on their own, which is the main point in my post; whether you meant that in yours, I have no idea.

The other question is whether or not Saban cares about that end result after the players have served his purpose.

This post was edited on 4/15/18 at 5:52 pm
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30599 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:08 pm to
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They should learn responsibilty on their own, which is the main point in my post; whether you meant that in yours, I have no idea.

The other question is whether or not Saban cares about that end result after the players have served his purpose.

1) I take it you have no older children.
2) If you ask his former players, you'll get a pretty good idea.
Posted by Sid E Walker
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:14 pm to
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Basically, Alabama players are extremely immature due to the fact that Saban restricts everything they do while there for 3-4 years. Once they get out from under the Gestapo regime, they go nuts.

Similar to kids who have been raised in a very strict household and then go off the deep end once they move out.

I agree, he should run his program like 0. He gets results.
Posted by Swampcat
Member since Dec 2003
10250 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:25 pm to
Betting they do a great job keeping it quiet, got it down to a science. Must be eating alot of Wheaties as well . Cough cough...
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:27 pm to
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it's pretty obvious to everyone that Bama sweeps a lot of shite under the rug too.

It's obvious to everyone. Some just don't like to admit it
Posted by ConwayGamecock
South Carolina
Member since Jan 2012
9121 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 6:33 pm to
Nick Saban's office has multiple oatmeal cream pie wrappers under its rug......
Posted by iglass
North Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
2917 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 7:56 pm to
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lsupride87


And I am saying you dont have "proof" situations werent swept under the rug


As a logical argument, this is about as stupid as it gets.

Example: I am convinced that lsupride87 beats his wife. He needs to prove to use that he did not. And all you people who disagree are deniers and are sweeping his actions under the rug. Quit being enablers of this heinous activity!
Posted by plazadweller
South Georgia
Member since Jul 2011
11442 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 8:12 pm to
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Yeah that wasnt Gus that was Chizick. Gus never suspended star QB Nick Marshall after he was busted with pot (coming off Nick's criminal history sounds like he knew he would get away with it)


He was suspended the first half of the first game of the year which was against Arkansas. If Jeremy Johnson doesn’t play lights out the 1st half we could have very well lost the game.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
41895 posts
Posted on 4/15/18 at 8:43 pm to
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Nonsense. Everyone was knows Cam Robinson and Hootie Jones were arrested for drugs and weapons, we're also aware they weren't suspended.


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