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Football Outsiders : NCAA Offensive Line Stats

Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:23 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:23 pm
FO : Offensive Line Stats 2019

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Line Yards per Carry: The line gets credit for rushing yardage between 0-3 yards (instead of 0-4) and 50% credit for yards 4-8 (instead of 5-10). Anything over 8 yards is quantified as a highlight opportunity, and credit goes to the runner. As with the pro definition, lost yardage still counts for 125%. (Garbage time is filtered out for all line yardage averages.)


1. Georgia (3.30)
6. Alabama (3.12)
10. LSU (3.01)
20. Mississippi St (2.90)
26. South Carolina (2.88)
29. Auburn (2.82)
52. Arkansas (2.67)
55. Missouri (2.66)
56. Kentucky (2.64)
65. Tennessee (2.58)
93. Texas A&M (2.40)
97. Florida (2.38)
97. Vanderbilt (2.38)
101. Ole Miss (2.37)


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Opportunity Rate: The percentage of carries (when four yards are available) that gain at least four yards, i.e. the percentage of carries in which the line does its job, so to speak.


2. Georgia (60.0%)
7. Alabama (57.1%)
19. LSU (52.9%)
26. Kentucky (51.7%)
36. Mississippi St (50.5%)
39. Arkansas (50.3%)
43. Auburn (49.8%)
58. Vanderbilt (48.2%)
64. South Carolina (47.8%)
64. Tennessee (47.8%)
76. Texas A&M (46.8%)
79. Missouri (46.6%)
114. Ole Miss (41.6%)


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Sack Rate: Unadjusted sack rate for all non-garbage time pass attempts.


5. Georgia (2.3%)
28. Alabama (4.0%)
42. Arkansas (4.9%)
45. LSU (5.1%)
50. Missouri (5.3%)
51. Auburn (5.4%)
53. Kentucky (5.5%)
55. Vanderbilt (5.5%)
72. Florida (6.2%)
77. South Carolina (6.5%)
85. Ole Miss (7.0%)
85. Tennessee (7.0%)
99. Texas A&M (7.9%)
120. Mississippi St (11.1%)
Posted by JGTiger
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:29 pm to
Man, Auburn sucks!
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3361 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:32 pm to
Lmao this hurts teams like OU averaging like 9 yards per play...
Posted by Dawgy49
North Georgia
Member since Sep 2015
4851 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:34 pm to
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Man, Auburn sucks!


It’s what they’re known for!
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:36 pm to
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Lmao this hurts teams like OU averaging like 9 yards per play...



No, it doesn't. It just caps what a line gets credit for at 8 yards. Anything past 8 yards credit is given to the runner. It's a pretty simple and widely used metric for doing stat based offensive line analysis as opposed to individual grading offensive line analysis (such as PFF).

Feel free to whine about how biased advanced stats are over on BXII rant. Thanks.
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 1:38 pm
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
43979 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:37 pm to
Our OL:

Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:37 pm to
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

Lmao this hurts teams like OU averaging like 9 yards per play...

Wow, couldn't be more wrong. If they average 9 yards per play, OU will get max stats. The credit after cap goes to runner.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 1:40 pm to
An interesting number I noted - Georgia is in the Top 5/10 in almost every category and #1/2 in many.

Line Yards - #1
Std Down Line Yards - #1
Pass Down Line Yards - #13
Opportunity Rate - #2
Stuff Rate Against - #4
Sack Rate- #5

However - they are #110 in power success rate.

quote:

Power Success Rate: Percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown.


On all 3rd/4th and 2 or less, they've only gotten a 1st down/TD on 58.3% of those situations. They've been stopped short on 41.7% of them.

For comparison

9. LSU (87.5%)
17. Alabama (84.6%)
25. Texas A&M (81.8%)
48. Missouri (75.0%)
62. Tennessee (72.2%)
68. Ole Miss (70.4%)
80. Auburn (66.7%)
93. Arkansas (64.7%)
98. Mississippi St (63.6%)
106. South Carolina (61.5%)
107. Vanderbilt (60.0%)
110. Georgia (58.3%)
118. Florida (52.9%)
128. Kentucky (38.9%)
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 1:46 pm
Posted by FightingTigers138
In your thoughts
Member since Dec 2016
5746 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

On all 3rd/4th and 2 or less, they've only gotten a 1st down/TD on 58.3% of those situations. They've been stopped short on 41.7% of them.

Being predictable is the cause.
Posted by Todd O'Connor
MIke Ditka's Restaurant Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:17 pm to
so the line gets credit untill it does a really good job?
Posted by weedGOKU666
THE 'COLA
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:19 pm to
When we line up on third and really short, my pessimism kicks in and I feel like we convert it less than half the time

Kentucky knows they’re gonna convert it less than half the time. Woof
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:22 pm to
quote:

so the line gets credit untill it does a really good job?


Yea man you nailed it. Hey everybody come look at the big brain on Todd.
Posted by BallsEleven
Member since Mar 2019
6163 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:30 pm to
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10. LSU (3.01


I'm surprised LSU is this high. CEH has been met at or behind the LOS many times this year but has a great side step to avoid the tackle for a loss and find the open hole.

I see that LSU's stuff rate is near the top of the rankings as well but it seems like they only count a stuff if the runner is brought down, not necessarily if they are touched.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:36 pm to
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I see that LSU's stuff rate is near the top of the rankings as well but it seems like they only count a stuff if the runner is brought down, not necessarily if they are touched.


Yea - CEH has a very high broken tackles %.
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3361 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:42 pm to
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Wow, couldn't be more wrong. If they average 9 yards per play, OU will get max stats. The credit after cap goes to runner.


Well maybe I’m missing something but OU is averaging more than 9 ypp this year so where’s their number 1 ranking? Also they are barely seeing 3rd Downs so how is this stat indicative of good line play?
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 2:44 pm
Posted by mckibaj
Member since Nov 2010
7728 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:46 pm to
Arkansas is in the top half of every category. How?

ETA: is it because the garbage time filtering is for the 75% of the game?
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 2:48 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Well maybe I’m missing something but OU is averaging more than 9 ypp this year so where’s their number 1 ranking? Also they are barely seeing 3rd Downs so how is this stat indicative of good line play?



Oklahoma is #12 in Line Yards because of the following

- Oklahoma is #1 in opportunity rate, meaning their backs get at least 4 YPA on the most % of runs in America (62.6%). Georgia is #2 at 60.0%)

- Oklahoma is #48 in stuff rate, which is % of carries by running backs that are stopped at or behind the LOS

- So while Oklahoma is #1 in % of carries that get 4+ yards, they are only #48 in % of carries stopped at or behind the line. When you are just averaging out # of YPA, it's still pretty high (because a 48 yard run + -4 yard run = 22 YPA), but when you eliminate the extra yards after the OL line work is done that goes from 22 YPA to 8 - 4 / 2 = 2 YPA

Bottom line, UGA is #1 in line yards because they get both explosive runs AND very rarely are stopped at or behind the LOS (11.8% vs 17.1% for Oklahoma)

Also, when you break out Oklahoma's yards and remove what Jalen has done (much of it scrambling) the YPA numbers come down

Jalen : 84 attempts, 705 yards, 8.39 YPA
Non-QBs : 176 attempts, 1,210 yards, 6.88 YPA
This post was edited on 10/23/19 at 2:53 pm
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25556 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:54 pm to
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However - they are #110 in power success rate.

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Power Success Rate: Percentage of runs on third or fourth down, two yards or less to go, that achieved a first down or touchdown.



On all 3rd/4th and 2 or less, they've only gotten a 1st down/TD on 58.3% of those situations. They've been stopped short on 41.7% of them.

For comparison

9. LSU (87.5%)
17. Alabama (84.6%)
25. Texas A&M (81.8%)
48. Missouri (75.0%)
62. Tennessee (72.2%)
68. Ole Miss (70.4%)
80. Auburn (66.7%)
93. Arkansas (64.7%)
98. Mississippi St (63.6%)
106. South Carolina (61.5%)
107. Vanderbilt (60.0%)
110. Georgia (58.3%)
118. Florida (52.9%)
128. Kentucky (38.9%


The center trey hill doesn't get push on short yardage. It isnt going to change this year. He does a lot of things great. That isnt one of them.

Also, we have 3 different players at each guard spot due to injuries.

Short yardage or power success depends on being good/great on the interior. We dont have the personnel at the moment (guard should be starter for Florida).
Posted by Boomer00
Member since Sep 2015
3361 posts
Posted on 10/23/19 at 2:55 pm to
Nice post. Thanks for the clarification.
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