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re: Does Jalen Milroe have more potential than any Alabama qb ever?
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:25 pm to DawginSC
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:25 pm to DawginSC
It's all moot at this point. Milroe is not a finished product and had a terrible OC last year. If his numbers are the same this year, then ok. But with a year under his belt and DeBoer's offensive schemes, he could also be a lot better in terms of pure numbers. But he's definitely a guy I'm comfortable with going into battle with.
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:26 pm to DawginSC
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He wasn't that inconsistent though. He was consistently "meh".
He had one game above 260 yards passing and 2 games below 190. The rest were all in that range, around 225 yards a game.
He had 4 games above 70% completion and 3 games below 60%. The rest were all in the 60's in terms of percent.
He had 1 game with 2 int's. The rest had 0-1.
You are acting like these numbers are meh, but they really aren't, especially in Rees's offense. They were good, not great.
I know that its 2024, and we compare him to our past 3 QBs (who had insane WR talent to throw to) eye-popping stats but his numbers were solid last season.
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The only thing that was more than mildly inconsistent about his game last year was the rushing stats. He had some ridiculous rushing games (155 vs LSU) but some total duds too (-31 vs A&M).
Milroe wasn't all over the place last year. He was mostly the same guy, with a couple duds and a couple stand out performances. He's got a pretty standard distribution.
Now his "normal game" had a few big plays surrounded by a lot of "meh". If by being "more consistent" you expect a few more big plays each game then I could see that happening. But the vast majority of his snaps were of the "meh" variety. If you expect those to improve you aren't expecting consistency, you're expecting a flat improvement overall.
He was inconsistent because in many games or series he would look like a bum back there, and then turn around and make an NFL caliber throw. Idk how you can term that as anything but inconsistent. It seems like you are arguing that he was consistently inconsistent, which is correct, and which is why he needs to improve.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:33 pm to Pastor Mike
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He is the worst QB we've had since McElroy
Do you mean guys who have started a game? Cooper Bateman and Blake Barnett would like to have a word
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:44 pm to Pastor Mike
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He is the worst QB we've had since McElroy
And yet McElroy has a natty, something Bryce couldn't do. I want the championships, not stats and style points.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:51 pm to John Milner
Maybe the most gifted game manager we've ever had. There,that answers both questions.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:56 pm to Funky Tide 8
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He was inconsistent because in many games or series he would look like a bum back there, and then turn around and make an NFL caliber throw. Idk how you can term that as anything but inconsistent. It seems like you are arguing that he was consistently inconsistent, which is correct, and which is why he needs to improve.
That's pretty common (looking great on some throws and bad on others).
My point is you really aren't looking for Milroe to get more consistent. You're just looking for him to get better on his throws that aren't "wow" throws.
The comparison I'll give you is Matt Stafford. Throughout his 3 years at UGA, he made about the same number of "wow" throws the whole time. He didn't become more consistent. Rather he simply improved year to year on his non "wow" throws.
Consistency is eliminating the plays on the extreme (both good and bad) and playing to your existing average level without the outliers. But Milroe's average isn't all that great. What you want from him is improvement on his low end plays without losing any of the "wow" plays. You don't want him more consistent. You just want him to play better overall.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:10 pm to PeleofAnalytics
Both were better passers - Yep, I said it
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:27 pm to Pastor Mike
No Blake Sims the worst
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:45 pm to John Milner
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Alabama fans keep talking about Milroe’s “potential “ though the truth is that he’s going into his 4th season and is incredibly inconsistent.
Going into last season, Jayden Daniels was incredibly inconsistent, until he wasn’t. There is also similarities in that a ton of LSU fans wanted Nussmier to be the starter last season just like Bama fans want Simpson. I could see Milroe having a similar season as Jayden Daniels last season.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 5:07 pm to Pastor Mike
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Both were better passers - Yep, I said it
You are free to say it but that doesn't mean you aren't a retard
Milroe from 2021-2023
64.2 completion percentage
9.2 yards per attempt
TD 29
INT 9
Passer Rating 164.3
Blake Barnett from 2015-2019
59.4 Completion percentage
7.5 yards per attempt
TD 18
INT 14
Passer Rating 129.7
And if coaches across the nation saw enough of Cooper Bateman after a grand total of 410 yards on 66 attempts to say we don't have a spot for you, I am not sure he was a better passer. Guy was 3rd string at Utah in his 3rd season and couldn't even get a snap.
Sorry but Barnett and Bateman were terrible
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:13 pm to PeleofAnalytics
And yet - all of his throws are bombs - he is terrible at the short and midrange throws. But you can be a homer if you want. I want him to succeed, and I hope the new staff can help him - but to say he was better than those two as a passer is laughable
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 6:15 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:26 pm to Pastor Mike
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And yet - all of his throws are bombs - he is terrible at the short and midrange throws.
Plus even on the long balls the receivers nearly always have to adjust to the ball rather than hitting them in stride for touchdowns
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:28 pm to Pastor Mike
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And yet - all of his throws are bombs
Wrong.
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he is terrible at the short and midrange throws.
He is actually pretty decent at midrange throws, but short throws he definitely needs a lot of work on.
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but to say he was better than those two as a passer is laughable
You're delusional if you believe this.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:31 pm to Pastor Mike
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And yet - all of his throws are bombs - he is terrible at the short and midrange throws. But you can be a homer if you want. I want him to succeed, and I hope the new staff can help him - but to say he was better than those two as a passer is laughable
Yeah... so he is terrible with short and mid range throws compared to those rejects but he still manages to beat out Barnett's completion percentage since "all of his throws are bombs". That makes complete mathematical sense!!! Throwing bombs left and right (the lowest percentage pass in football) magically ends up with Milroe having a 5% completion percentage advantage over Barnett.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:51 pm to John Milner
I think more of him than a lot of Bama fans but come on, man, get behind your skis here … that is if you’re serious and not trolling.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:55 pm to InkStainedWretch
I don’t watch Bama games closely but it seemed like he improved a good bit throughout the year. If he does that again this year he could be very solid
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:55 pm to PeleofAnalytics
Not all are bombs - half are bombs and half are 3 yard losses thrown into triple coverage and TFL
This post was edited on 5/22/24 at 6:02 am
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:57 pm to Funky Tide 8
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He is actually pretty decent at midrange throws, but short throws he definitely needs a lot of work on.
Laugh of the day... thanks
Dude can have someone 5 yards from him and throw it 5 yards behind him.... or knock them down by throwing it so hard. You guys aren't being honest
Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:00 pm to InkStainedWretch
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I think more of him than a lot of Bama fans but come on, man, get behind your skis here … that is if you’re serious and not trolling.
I am an Alabama fan, not the number on the jersey and I want our team to be ad good as possible, and not #70 passing offense in the nation because the qb is average. I hope Milroe has a great year, not only because it will mean Alabama had a great year but because it will mean he can move on to the NFL. I do not relish hearing this time next year how much potential he has going into his 5th year
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