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re: Does Jalen Milroe have more potential than any Alabama qb ever?
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:51 pm to rtr23242526
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:51 pm to rtr23242526
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Milroe lost me the natty..all that matters
That guy would have been Tommy Rees. No point in you going through life this ignorant on purpose.
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:54 pm to John Milner
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Posted by Funky Tide 8 5/21/24 at 10:00 am to John Milner
He …led us to an SECC last season and a playoff birth in his first season starting.
do you know what "led' means?
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:55 pm to bamameister
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Tommy Rees.
Rees had to simplify the offense for Milroe
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:56 pm to makersmark1
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Good enough to make the playoffs.
That's like saying Trent Dilfer was good enough to win a Super Bowl. Technically true, but is disingenuous and doesn't tell the whole story.
Besides, last I checked football was a team sport and even a top tier QB (which Milroe is definitely not) needs a ton of help to win.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:57 pm to KingOfTheWorld
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Except for him throwing for 2,834 yards, 23 TDs, 6 INTs, and ending the season with the 9th ranked QBR in the country, you are exactly right.
2834 yards is not really good. He played 13 games, which makes that 218 yards per game through the air.
A big part of that is that Bama didn't have him throw the ball a ton. He averaged just 22 pass attempts per game. But that lack of pass attempts also makes the INT number look better than it really was. For comparison Carson Beck had 6 INT's as well... but had 133 more pass attempts. 30 passes per game rather than 22.
If Milroe can maintain the same efficiency while passing the ball more frequently, he can have a pretty great season. But that's not always easy to do. Part of what makes QB's who pass less more efficient is that the defense is expecting a run all the time. That's why option QB's sometimes have great efficiency numbers. If you start passing more though, the defense isn't going to be set on stopping the run all the time and passing becomes harder.
REgardless, bragging about 218 passing yards per game isn't warranted.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 12:57 pm to John Milner
Who knows the answer to either question but I do know that in his first year as a starter he beat Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, won the SEC and got us to OT against the national champions with Tommy Rees as his OC and a center who couldn't snap. Just give me more of that, not these stupid questions.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:02 pm to John Milner
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Rees had to simplify the offense for Milroe
Apparently, when Ty Simpson and Buchner took the reigns in Tampa he needed to "simplify" the offense as well. Tommy Rees was a bad hire as was Pete Golding for all those years.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:05 pm to John Milner
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Does Jalen Milroe have more potential than any Alabama qb ever?
No. His ceiling isn't as high as a Tagovailoa or a Stabler.
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Second chapter: Is Jalen Milroe the most inconsistent Alabama qb ever ?
Also no, That would have to be Croyle. He'd have one decent game followed by 5 bad ones. Same big arm reputation, but Croyle was an inaccurate passer at any distance.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:09 pm to bamameister
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Tommy Rees was a bad hire
Like another poster also said, that sounds like comments about Daboll in 2017 up until Saban finally played Tua in the 2nd half of the title game.
And no. I didn’t say there is a Tua on this team. There surely is not.
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Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:11 pm to Corriente Kid
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I think he will be much improved this year and one of the top QB's in the SEC
I agree with this. His first two years were spent under a QB coach who told him he shouldn't be a QB. Last year his position coach thought a guy who gave up the sport to play lacrosse was better.
I expect he'll be much improved this year under a position coach who is actually teaching him the position.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:11 pm to John Milner
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Does Jalen Milroe have more potential than any Alabama qb ever?
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:15 pm to John Milner
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Like another poster also said, that sounds like comments about Daboll in 2017 up until Saban finally played Tua in the 2nd half of the title game.
Daboll was not a good OC. He took a QB who was the returning SEC offensive POY, added EASILY the best WR class in school history, and absolutely underperformed in every single metric. He wasn't half the coordinator Kiffin was.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:16 pm to John Milner
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Like another poster also said, that sounds like comments about Daboll in 2017 up until Saban finally played Tua in the 2nd half of the title game.
And no. I didn’t say there is a Tua on this team. There surely is not.
Then you get ready who you have. Daboll wasn't clueless. He played to his defense with Jalen Hurts. He ran the hell out of the ball. Tua was in the biggest games that season as a true freshman and he was throwing the ball. Even when Tennessee took one back almost 100 yards and Danielson predicted that would be the last of Tua airing it out, he was dead wrong. The next series and for the game he came out firing. Brian Daboll simply adapted his offense to his talent all season. Tommy Rees did not.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:31 pm to Tideroller
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Who knows the answer to either question but I do know that in his first year as a starter he beat Tennessee, LSU, Auburn, Georgia, won the SEC and got us to OT against the national champions with Tommy Rees as his OC and a center who couldn't snap. Just give me more of that, not these stupid questions.
This is a bit of a projection.
UGA won 8 games with Joe Cox as our starting QB in 2009, but it's a stretch to say Joe Cox "beat" anyone. UGA won games with Cox as the starter, not because of him.
When Bama beat UGA, Milroe had 192 yards passing (57%) and 29 yards rushing (2.1 yards per attempt). Bama won the game, but was it because of Milroe? Or because of Bama's defense?
Bama was a very good team last year, but Milroe passed for 218 yards per game. That doesn't suggest he was carrying the team to much of their success.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:50 pm to John Milner
No
Yes
Pretty simple
Yes
Pretty simple
Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:51 pm to John Milner
He has the potential to be Jamarcus Russell.
And that could be bi-polar freshman Russell, accomplished 3rd year Russell, or I am completely out of my element NFL rookie Russell.
And that could be bi-polar freshman Russell, accomplished 3rd year Russell, or I am completely out of my element NFL rookie Russell.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:56 pm to DawginSC
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When Bama beat UGA, Milroe had 192 yards passing (57%) and 29 yards rushing (2.1 yards per attempt). Bama won the game, but was it because of Milroe? Or because of Bama's defense?
He performed well to great in the pivotal games we had to win to win the west. Sacks really skewed his rushing stats in a lot of those games. Some of him were his fault but a ton of them were due to poor pass pro.
His stat line against UGA was meh, but he most definitely made big plays that were instrumental in us winning the game.
The Milroe argument is so tired at this point because most of us see him for what he is: a QB that has the talent to be electric, and is at times, but was inconsistent last season, and needs to clean up his fundamentals. For the most part he stayed cool under pressure. He was the best option we had last season, and could be our best option this season. We will see.
But, for some reason some of our fellow Bama fans seemingly enjoy ragging on him, and disparaging him. They like to play dumb and act like people that call them out are trying to limit their free speech and are sunshine pumpers, but they know exactly what they are doing. So weird that Bama fans talk more shite about him than opposing fans, and by a large margin.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:08 pm to DawginSC
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When Bama beat UGA, Milroe had 192 yards passing (57%) and 29 yards rushing (2.1 yards per attempt). Bama won the game, but was it because of Milroe? Or because of Bama's defense?
I'm not saying Milroe won the game singlehandedly, I'm saying he wins, and at the end of the day that's what matters to me. With rare exceptions, championship game wins occur because the offense, defense, and special teams all do their part. I heard people rag on AJ McCarron for 3 years because his stats weren't spectacular, but he won and won and won. Same with Stetson, the dude won. That's what I want.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:13 pm to Funky Tide 8
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The Milroe argument is so tired at this point because most of us see him for what he is: a QB that has the talent to be electric, and is at times, but was inconsistent last season, and needs to clean up his fundamentals.
He wasn't that inconsistent though. He was consistently "meh".
He had one game above 260 yards passing and 2 games below 190. The rest were all in that range, around 225 yards a game.
He had 4 games above 70% completion and 3 games below 60%. The rest were all in the 60's in terms of percent.
He had 1 game with 2 int's. The rest had 0-1.
The only thing that was more than mildly inconsistent about his game last year was the rushing stats. He had some ridiculous rushing games (155 vs LSU) but some total duds too (-31 vs A&M).
Milroe wasn't all over the place last year. He was mostly the same guy, with a couple duds and a couple stand out performances. He's got a pretty standard distribution.
Now his "normal game" had a few big plays surrounded by a lot of "meh". If by being "more consistent" you expect a few more big plays each game then I could see that happening. But the vast majority of his snaps were of the "meh" variety. If you expect those to improve you aren't expecting consistency, you're expecting a flat improvement overall.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:18 pm to Tideroller
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I'm not saying Milroe won the game singlehandedly, I'm saying he wins, and at the end of the day that's what matters to me.
My point is HE didn't win, the team won. Bama had an extremely good team last season. But the QB's he was in comparable to last season statistically are Joe Milton and Graham Mertz.
All three of them were/are serviceable SEC QB's. None of them are the level of QB that are winning games on their own. They're just good enough to let the rest of the team win or lose with overall talent.
Bama just has a lot more of that around Milroe than UF or Tennessee does.
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