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Damn, Louisville is broke
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:53 am
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:53 am
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:54 am to Landmass
Looks they are Mississippi tier poor now
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:55 am to Lt. Columbo
You can't help yourself, can you?
I'm surprised that you left off the "dumpster program" response.
I'm surprised that you left off the "dumpster program" response.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 8:59 am to Landmass
They will be far from the only one.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:06 am to Landmass
There are only 10-15 teams able to compete in the modern landscape and even thats largely dependent on which boosters have money at a given time.
Like LSU absent Graves and one or two guys wouldnt have a top 5 NIL budget but as long as hes selling chicken theyre good.
Same thing with IU. Everyone talks about Cignetti and hes great, but Mark Cuban is the one getting the prime tier NIL guys with the money he has sitting around from selling the Mavs.
What's going on isn't sustainable and outside of wanting an excuse to be on campus a few times every fall isn't nearly as appealing as it was 10-15 years ago with either basketball or football because its just minor league sports without any real roster management rules that make sense.
LSU just signed 3-5 guys who would've caused an uproar last year but it doesn't bother me because I don't see the difference between any of them and the guy making $3M to play PG at some other school as a junior. What objectively is different about it? Its all pro athletics.
Like LSU absent Graves and one or two guys wouldnt have a top 5 NIL budget but as long as hes selling chicken theyre good.
Same thing with IU. Everyone talks about Cignetti and hes great, but Mark Cuban is the one getting the prime tier NIL guys with the money he has sitting around from selling the Mavs.
What's going on isn't sustainable and outside of wanting an excuse to be on campus a few times every fall isn't nearly as appealing as it was 10-15 years ago with either basketball or football because its just minor league sports without any real roster management rules that make sense.
LSU just signed 3-5 guys who would've caused an uproar last year but it doesn't bother me because I don't see the difference between any of them and the guy making $3M to play PG at some other school as a junior. What objectively is different about it? Its all pro athletics.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:22 am to tide06
the reality is that if fans stop buying tickets, think of the hole that will cause to schools athletics budgets
look at what sec fans are paying these days for tickets and other costs just to attend
look at what sec fans are paying these days for tickets and other costs just to attend
Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:30 am to Landmass
Louisville, mind you, is the poster child for a low tier sports program slowly building to success. When it comes to sustained growth and overall level of success not even Boise State can really compare to what the Cardinals have done over the last 25 years.
And they're broke.
As others have said, this model is not sustainable.
If a program has a drop in revenue, which is entirely possible, Universities don't have the financial resources to prop them up now. Even good sized schools are barely hanging on at the moment.
And they're broke.
As others have said, this model is not sustainable.
If a program has a drop in revenue, which is entirely possible, Universities don't have the financial resources to prop them up now. Even good sized schools are barely hanging on at the moment.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:32 am to tide06
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What's going on isn't sustainable
This is true. Donor fatigue will set in soon at most places. It's ok to chunk millions to win some games in the short-term but long-term the money folks will not be so willing to continue to sink funds into a financial hole of which there is no return on investment.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 9:43 am to Landmass
It’s certainly not Tom Jurich running that AD anymore either.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:00 am to Landmass
staying in the ACC - the Orange school in the SC Upstate is $2.65B in the RED for long term debt - with $259M in debt service due very soon -
https://www.fitsnews.com/2026/05/06/code-orange-clemsons-financial-crisis-deepens/
there's also this -
https://www.fitsnews.com/2026/05/06/code-orange-clemsons-financial-crisis-deepens/
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A year ago, our media outlet blew the whistle on the deteriorating financial situation at Clemson University, a state-supported institution of higher learning in the South Carolina Upstate.
Last month, Clemson’s board of trustees – governed by a majority of unconstitutional lifetime appointments – heard additional data attesting to the school’s increasingly perilous financial footing. A slide show was presented to the board by Clemson’s chief financial officer, Rick Petillo, which concluded the institution has yet to reconcile its red ink problem.
As Clemson’s administrators and trustees squabbled, the school’s red ink continued to climb. According to the institution’s most recent annual comprehensive financial report (.pdf), the school’s debt ticked up to $1.15 billion – or $38,882 for each one of its 29,545 students. Of that total obligation, $236.9 million is due within one year.
Clemson’s total long-term liabilities have also continued to expand. That total figure now stands at $2.65 billion – an increase of $231.9 million from last year. Of that total, $259.1 million is due within one year.
there's also this -
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Dabo Swinney earns $11.45 million annually ranking 4th nationally. The Tigers generated $78.2 million in football revenue averaging recent fiscal years.
Clemson’s NIL collective TigerImpact reportedly raised $5 million initially but lags far behind SEC powerhouses spending $20-40 million.
The program faces financial pressure competing outside the ACC’s lower media payouts. Swinney’s contract runs through 2031 with a staggering $60 million buyout, making him virtually untouchable despite three consecutive seasons without ACC championship appearances.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:03 am to 1801
After decades Clemson is headed back to the SoCon.
I am not sure where the race of college athletics ends but Clemson will not be a player. It simply does not have the alumni base. At the beginning of the 1990s Clemson entire enrollment was less than Ohio Sts business school dept.
I am not sure where the race of college athletics ends but Clemson will not be a player. It simply does not have the alumni base. At the beginning of the 1990s Clemson entire enrollment was less than Ohio Sts business school dept.
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:15 am to Landmass
Don’t most all athletic departments operate in debt now? Ross bjork said a couple days ago osu was down 24 million this past fiscal year. Bjork claims it’s not ideal but he has plans in place to stop bleeding. Several other big ten schools are facing similar deficits. But maybe this is needed to reign everyone in a little
Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:24 am to tide06
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Like LSU absent Graves and one or two guys wouldnt have a top 5 NIL budget but as long as hes selling chicken theyre good.
Louisville had their own Graves in the form of Papa Johns man. He was a big reason their Athletics grew to prominence in the first place. He threw tons of money at that school.
But they ran him off in yet another cancel culture rage that seems to have been overblown at best and an outright setup at worst.
Now they are "revisiting" the issue.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:55 am to nicholastiger
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the reality is that if fans stop buying tickets, think of the hole that will cause to schools athletics budgets
look at what sec fans are paying these days for tickets and other costs just to attend
I had a real serious discussion this year about not renewing our season tickets and we've had them in our family for 30 years.
For the same tickets and getting less amenities and no tax break which was removed back in like 2018 my cost out the door has doubled since Covid.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 10:58 am to BHTiger
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I am not sure where the race of college athletics ends but Clemson will not be a player. It simply does not have the alumni base. At the beginning of the 1990s Clemson entire enrollment was less than Ohio Sts business school dept.
Its not about the size of your alumni base, its about whether you have high millionaires or billionaires now who want to **** measure by buying athletes.
Its why Duke despite their ultra low enrollment has the highest budget in CBB most years.
Before you just needed some bored millionaires, now you need $40M/year just to hang with the elites which means you need a bunch of millionaires or 1-2 billionaire types to swing that.
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Posted on 5/22/26 at 11:00 am to Landmass
Good for them. The NIaL ruined college sports. It completely fricking ruined it. As it stands there is literally no reason any player, not even non starters, shouldn't put themselves on market every single season. None. I hope that player oregons suing loses every fricking dime in his and anyone he loves bank account. They're selfish that's that were already rewarded and they can all go frick themselves.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 11:06 am to Themicah86
Players wanted a piece of the pie. Now they are eating the whole damn pie. There will be no pie left soon.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 11:07 am to nicholastiger
I wish that would be primarily the case but its more so driven by ad budget. AS long as football and mens basketball has eyeballs the real money is there. They would stream to an empty stadium but the ad revenue is what truly drives this. If we turn the TV and streaming off that is the only way to hit them to make change.
Now if we stop buying tickets it absolutely would help drive ticket prices down to a more reasonable cost but that wont change college athletics from the beast it has become, that just changes the economics of attendance for the average fan.
Now if we stop buying tickets it absolutely would help drive ticket prices down to a more reasonable cost but that wont change college athletics from the beast it has become, that just changes the economics of attendance for the average fan.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 11:08 am to AUFANATL
The freakery the past year or two has been fun to watch. The model can and will absolutely sustain itself. Why? Because high schools produce a lot of football players who want to keep playing. The Ivies don’t even give out scholarships and they seem to field teams every year with no issues.
Sure, there will be changes - I believe for the good - but college football is a thriving business that will keep going.
And if other sports lose funding then so be it. Most of all these subsidized sports should have died off long ago anyway. No one has a right to play a sport no one is willing to pay for with a school name on the jersey. There are sports clubs in every major city for every type of sport if a student wants to try and keep playing certain sports while they attend college.
And a lot of this is just the market catching up and telling these schools that perhaps they were dumb to pay guys named Dabo and Kirby 10’s of millions. And I imagine these crazy NIL prices will also significantly fall as schools simply stop bidding. The bottom line is the supply of players is just about endless so every school will have access to players whether they pay a lot or a little.
Sure, there will be changes - I believe for the good - but college football is a thriving business that will keep going.
And if other sports lose funding then so be it. Most of all these subsidized sports should have died off long ago anyway. No one has a right to play a sport no one is willing to pay for with a school name on the jersey. There are sports clubs in every major city for every type of sport if a student wants to try and keep playing certain sports while they attend college.
And a lot of this is just the market catching up and telling these schools that perhaps they were dumb to pay guys named Dabo and Kirby 10’s of millions. And I imagine these crazy NIL prices will also significantly fall as schools simply stop bidding. The bottom line is the supply of players is just about endless so every school will have access to players whether they pay a lot or a little.
Posted on 5/22/26 at 11:09 am to BHTiger
This is why I dont watch MLB, I love the salary cap and as a fan of Texas this would absolutely hurt Texas but somewhat evening of the playing field is necessary. Sucks for universities like Clemson for sure
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