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re: D1 Baseball Field of 64 - 5/24

Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:11 am to
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:11 am to
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2 Seeds Mississippi St (15 Indiana St)


What the frick

That’s bullshite we don’t get a host. Only positive is ISU is a paper tiger they have 3 Q1 wins we would frick that regional up

State is 16-13 in Q1 games. They are 3-6. I’m sorry but they don’t deserve a host

Posted by tigers33
Member since Oct 2007
780 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:11 am to
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are likely to get them in.


I don’t think Alabama has anything to worry about as far as getting in
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
91227 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:20 am to
State has more Q1 wins than ISU has Q1/Q2 wins combined. 30 of their 40 wins are against Q3/4 teams

If we get snubbed as a host that means the committee put more emphasis on states bad losses the first two weeks of the season than our great wins against SEC teams and rewarded a team for playing a shite schedule
Posted by Cornelius
1800s
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:27 am to
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Lsu (13 Oklahoma St)

Given how entertaining the 2022 Stillwater Regional was, this has some very real potential. Being matched up with the College Station Regional provides some extra spice.

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Vanderbilt (11 NC State)

Vandy should show up in surgical masks. That would probably get the locals riled up.

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South Carolina (6 Clemson)

South Carolina @ Clemson; Texas @A&M; Florida @ FSU; Georgia Tech @ Georgia. Its like Thanksgiving in June.
Posted by Cornelius
1800s
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:27 am to

This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 9:28 am
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at La
Member since Sep 2014
909 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:29 am to
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8. Georgia

2 Seeds
Mississippi St (15 Indiana St)


So the better SEC team is on the bubble and the other is a top 8 seed? I hope Stricklin and Byrnes ask this exact question when they meet. So if the SEC is so strong, shouldn't we take SEC results over games in February/March?
Posted by Captain Falcon
Member since Apr 2020
681 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:36 am to
If State doesn’t host they only have themselves to blame. They’ve had numerous opportunities to slam the door on this debate and haven’t done it.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65529 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:40 am to
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Florida (9 Florida St)

Would be doing Florida a favor pairing them with the lowest seed top 8 super regional
Posted by Godawgs4
Member since Aug 2016
4358 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:42 am to
Exactly true. The early season losses are biting us in the butt.
If we in today and tomorrow I think we may have a chance to host.
But we will be a rough #2 for whoever we get sent to if we don’t host.
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at La
Member since Sep 2014
909 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:44 am to
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Hosts
1. Kentucky
2. Tennessee
4. Texas A&M
5. Arkansas
8. Georgia



Biggest factor nobody wants to discuss is State's record against this group:
1) Only Arkansas beat them more, none of them at Dudy Noble
2) 2-2 against A&M none of them at Dudy Noble
3) 2-1 with an * behind the loss with UGA.

They luck up and beat UT today, they will have a winning record against these D1 computer nerds Top 8...... with only 3 home games
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
42172 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:45 am to
UF has owned FSU since Sully came aboard and now that FSU has a good coach/team they are wanting some payback.

FSU will beat the stuffing out of UF like they did in the first 3 games we played this season. Personally I hope one of the other 3 teams in that regional knocks us out so they don't get to have the pleasure.
Posted by oleheat
Sportsman's Paradise
Member since Mar 2007
13600 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:51 am to
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You're not wrong. 32-3 at home with the 3 losses coming in series wins over MSU, UGA, & ARK.


Yikes. What are y'all putting in that ice cream??
Posted by Sparetime
Lookin down at La
Member since Sep 2014
909 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:03 am to
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The early season losses are biting us in the butt.


State and LSU don't need to blame anybody for what happened in the beginning of the year and they have both always played the season out better than anybody.

They are both showing that they are better than their record, and I promise Indiana St. and Ok. State are praying they don't get either of them at their regional.
Posted by Mr Sausage
Cat Spring, Texas
Member since Oct 2011
12952 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:03 am to
No one is arguing that.
Posted by Cornelius
1800s
Member since Aug 2012
1050 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:10 am to
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So the better SEC team is on the bubble and the other is a top 8 seed? I hope Stricklin and Byrnes ask this exact question when they meet. So if the SEC is so strong, shouldn't we take SEC results over games in February/March?

Seems like a function of having 5 bad losses weighing down the RPI. Take 2-3 of them away and State likely has a top 15 RPI and would be a lock to host. Kind of silly considering State has 16 Q1 wins. Only Kentucky, A&M, and Tennessee have more; however those teams have 2 total Q4 losses combined.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
9453 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:14 am to
How about Baseball America:

No. 7 Oklahoma with regional including LSU, Georgia Tech and Abilene Christian


Spicey
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2182 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:27 am to
The conspiracy theorist in me thinks that if LSU is sent to a regional in Oklahoma, the Big XII rep will see that it is to Norman, rather than Stillwater. Sort of a parting "gift" for the Sooners. Probably get Texas sent to College Station for the same reason.

Side note: After looking at those brackets (and the BA ones) that have A&M, Arkansas, and Clemson as 4, 5, and 6, let me put in a good word for Clemson. I think they are severely underrated, and should move ahead of A&M and Arkansas, or one of us.
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 10:30 am
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20573 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:43 am to
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Any possibility of a BR regional if LSU wins the tournament?



Zero, the committee has never handed out a host site to a team with a losing conference record. And honestly for good reason. Getting hot in a conference tournament shouldnt erase a season of being a few game sunder .500.

Just a couple things to point out- this isn't just any conference, it's the SEC, far and away the most dominant conference in baseball.

What you state makes sense, but it would also make sense to say "finishing a few games under .500 in conference, and only 1 game over .500 overall, means you have ZERO chance to make a regional when you go 0-1 in the conference tournament". Yet, Florida is still listed as a 3 despite being 28-27 overall.

And I noted something D1 says in their article...
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Duke is another team to watch. The Blue Devils have an 18-14 ACC aggregate record after a win over NC State and are up to 19 in the RPI — right behind ECU. The Devils have work to do, but definitely keep an eye on them entering the weekend. The other potential hosting options would be Wake Forest and Dallas Baptist. Wake has an excellent RPI, but the resume is still lacking. It would need to get to Sunday at minimum
What caught my eye is the mention of Duke's "aggregate ACC record". Sure, Duke was 16-14 in the regular season, so NOT a losing conference record; but they're bringing up the combined record there.

Also giving Wake Forest a shot- they finished 15-15 in the ACC. Again, it's not sub-500, but as good as the ACC is, it's not the SEC. They're currently looking at 5 overall hosts, the SEC is looking at 5 National Seeds.

If you're going to talk about someone building resumes in the conference tournament- LSU if they win out, would have 18 'aggregate' SEC wins. 41 wins overall. And depending on how the tournament goes, could still face (and beat) Kentucky and Tennessee again. If that's how it plays out, that means LSU would have beat UGA, Kentucky x2, and Tennessee- all currently national seeds, in this stretch.

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In basketball terms going from where we were to suddenly hosting would be like going from 11/12 bubble seed entering the SECT and somehow getting a 4 seed after the SECT, that aint happening to anyone, ever
I don't think it happens, but it's a bit presumptuous to get up on your soap box and swear it's impossible.

You mention basketball, but that's not a relevant comparison: there isn't a basketball conference remotely comparable to the SEC in baseball. It's even more dominant than in football; and in football we just saw undefeated Florida State left out of the playoffs, because of the SEC- they chose 1-loss Alabama, and in doing so they also had to choose 1-loss Texas, who beat Alabama. There was a lot of media doublespeak about having a backup QB for FSU, which was just a smokescreen for why you drop an undefeated team in favor of 2 teams with losses on the record.
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
9661 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:46 am to
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Alabama has played awful down the stretch but those series wins against Arkansas and Tennessee are likely to get them in.

Alabama can win that regional..

1 Oklahoma
2 Nebraska
3 Alabama

The Super Regional wouldn't be bad either with UVA or WVU most likely advancing..

That's a fantastic draw for Alabama if it plays out that way..
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
9661 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 10:55 am to
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How about Baseball America:

Damn.. that's a nice path to Omaha for LSU & Texas.. not saying it would be easy, but all of these teams have some question marks.. and there isn't a dominant team in the bunch. I'd take LSU today if I had to pick.

1 Oklahoma
2 LSU

1 Virginia
2 Texas

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