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Comparing Kirby Smart and Mark Richt at similar points in their tenure at Georgia
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:56 am
Posted on 10/20/20 at 8:56 am
Mark Richt was 46-10 (26-8) at this point in his tenure at Georgia from 2001 through the first four games of 2005. Kirby Smart is 47-13 (28-8) through the same time period. If Georgia fails to win the SEC this year he will have fallen behind Richt's pace. I'm sure questions will then start to arise as to whether or not Smart can get the Bulldogs over that final hump. Maybe Georgia isn't meant to be a national power if that turns out to be the case?
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:02 am to RollTide1987
I will start to worry if Kirby has a huge falloff in his 6th or 7th year. Richt was great for those first five years, and then in spots after that.
And for anyone who remembers the 90s well and is not happy with what Kirby has done, they cannot be helped and deserve the shite coach we end up with if we ever fire Kirby.
And for anyone who remembers the 90s well and is not happy with what Kirby has done, they cannot be helped and deserve the shite coach we end up with if we ever fire Kirby.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:07 am to RollTide1987
Maybe someone with almost 50,000 posts should know that this isn't new material and that Mark Richt's first 5 years were pretty damn good so it's not the insult that you think it is.
As far as not being a national power? It's just going to be a difference of opinion. Some people will say national championships only, some will say top 5 teams, some will say playoff teams. Either way, we're still happier than we were the last ten years under Richt.
As far as not being a national power? It's just going to be a difference of opinion. Some people will say national championships only, some will say top 5 teams, some will say playoff teams. Either way, we're still happier than we were the last ten years under Richt.
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:07 am to RollTide1987
As good as Richt had UGA early on, Smart has UGA in a better place.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:07 am to RollTide1987
He's a good recruiter. Beats the east teams, but can't beat the powers of the west. He gets out-coached against coaches that are similar. Doesn't matter how many 5*s he has/gets, he still can't beat the big boys. He doesn't know how to stick to a game plan or make adjustments
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:08 am to CatsGoneWild
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He gets out-coached against coaches that are similar.
lol Smart has a winning record against top 10 opponents, but ok...
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:09 am to RollTide1987
Mark Richt -1.9
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:09 am to RollTide1987
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If Georgia fails to win the SEC this year he will have fallen behind Richt's pace.
Really? I don’t recall Richt playing in the natty in his first 5 years...
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:11 am to RollTide1987
Here we go again.
WE DIDN'T FIRE THE MARK RICHT WHO
COACHED FROM '01 to '07.
Why is this point so difficult to comprehend? If Kirby goes 10 years without a SEC championship and routinely finishes 4th or 5th
in conference recruiting then we can talk.
WE DIDN'T FIRE THE MARK RICHT WHO
COACHED FROM '01 to '07.
Why is this point so difficult to comprehend? If Kirby goes 10 years without a SEC championship and routinely finishes 4th or 5th
in conference recruiting then we can talk.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:12 am to atlanta917
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I don’t recall Richt playing in the natty in his first 5 years...
Richt didn't have the benefit of a playoff in 2002. His team was #3 at the end of the season, just like Smart's.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:13 am to atlanta917
Coach o has the second best record against top 10 opponents and that doesn't stop yall for shitting on him .I think bama is the only top ten team to beat him if irc
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:14 am to RollTide1987
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His team was #3
After the bowl game, so irrelevant to the playoffs. Smart also played more top 25 and top 10 teams in 2017 than Richt did that year.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:15 am to RollTide1987
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Richt didn't have the benefit of a playoff in 2002. His team was #3 at the end of the season, just like Smart's.
That is a good point, but as others have said, Richt wasn’t fired because he was stuck at 01-07 levels.
He was fired because we had a clear drop off from the period you are comparing Smart’s record to.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:16 am to Tigerpride18
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Coach o has the second best record against top 10 opponents and that doesn't stop yall for shitting on him .I think bama is the only top ten team to beat him if irc
You seem to be forgetting the part where he was an SEC coach before he got LSU under investigation for paying players.
And he was the worst coach in the SEC which explains why he had to start paying players
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:17 am to atlanta917
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After the bowl game, so irrelevant to the playoffs.
False. They were #4 heading into the post-season, which would have given the 2002 Georgia Bulldogs a shot at the national championship if a four-team playoff existed back then. Kirby doesn't play for a national title if the playoffs don't exist.
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:18 am to RollTide1987
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They were #4 heading into the post-season, which would have given the 2002 Georgia Bulldogs a shot at the national championship if a four-team playoff existed back then.
But it didn’t. Richt played the system he had and Smart played the system he had. Bottom line is Smart made the natty and beat more ranked and top 10 teams along the way. Richt was winless in games that led to the natty, which is all that counts in this discussion. Smart had UGA’s most successful season in 40 years. Richt did not.
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Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:19 am to armtackledawg
It is a hard line to walk. There isn't any Saban's available to hire. So you gonna fire Kirby for a Stark type guy? Glad I am not the AD. On the flip side, I can see a booster wanting more than just one SEC title.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:21 am to AUCE05
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It is a hard line to walk. There isn't any Saban's available to hire.
Yep, or you don't know until you hire him. Auburn was in the same position until this year, but with Malzahn's completely shite performance, y'all have no choice but to take the risk now.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:21 am to RollTide1987
This has to be one of the stupidest things that get continuously posted.
Posted on 10/20/20 at 9:24 am to atlanta917
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Richt played the system he had and Smart played the system he had. Bottom line is Smart made the natty and beat more ranked and top 10 teams along the way.
Made possible only because of the system in place. All things being equal, there is literally nothing separating the two coaches except a national title appearance - which was only made possible due to the change in systems used to crown a national champion. If the BCS still existed in 2017, Smart would still have the same number of national championship appearances: zero. Kirby even has it easier than Richt did due to the advent of the playoffs and the enhanced reputation of the SEC.
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