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re: Comparing 4 Offenses : 2019 LSU, 2020 Bama, 2020 Ole Miss, 2020 Florida
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:Can you humor us and post the raw data
It's when the games are within 28 pts, not games with margins inside 28 pts. When the games are outside of 28 pt margins it's what is commonly referred to as garbage time, and teams generally do not try to move the ball/score in the same way or with the game players.
While I agree you are well intentioned, some of the games likely had 28 point margins somewhat early in the game, and I disagree that dogs are called off in those instances
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 4:35 pm
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Our last two games hurt a lot. Not sure what is going on but we've been sloppy. We need to come out and put it on Tenn
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:43 pm to lsupride87
LSU 2019 - SEC vs SEC (all pt margins)
Success Rate - 53.76%
Points Per Play - 0.67
Pts Per Drive - 3.59
% Drives with Score - 57.89%
Yards Per Play - 8.12
Explosive Play % - 16.18%
Negative Play % - 7.19%
3NOut % - 17.54%
Alabama 2020 - SEC vs SEC (all pt margins)
Success Rate - 55.26%
Points Per Play - 0.72
Pts Per Drive - 4.14
% Drives with Score - 60.22%
Yards Per Play - 8.08
Explosive Play % - 17.29%
Negative Play % - 6.58%
3NOut % - 11.83%
Success Rate - 53.76%
Points Per Play - 0.67
Pts Per Drive - 3.59
% Drives with Score - 57.89%
Yards Per Play - 8.12
Explosive Play % - 16.18%
Negative Play % - 7.19%
3NOut % - 17.54%
Alabama 2020 - SEC vs SEC (all pt margins)
Success Rate - 55.26%
Points Per Play - 0.72
Pts Per Drive - 4.14
% Drives with Score - 60.22%
Yards Per Play - 8.08
Explosive Play % - 17.29%
Negative Play % - 6.58%
3NOut % - 11.83%
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 4:45 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 4:59 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I don't get the obsession with comparing 2019 stats to 2020 stats. Seems some are scared of what was accomplished in 2019.
So 2019 QB vs QB that played in the SECCG:
JB: 3249yds 32TDs 4INTs
JF: 1724yds 13TDs 5INTs
These are stats against SEC only opponents and includes the SECCG.
So 2019 QB vs QB that played in the SECCG:
JB: 3249yds 32TDs 4INTs
JF: 1724yds 13TDs 5INTs
These are stats against SEC only opponents and includes the SECCG.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Ole Miss, as I’ve been saying all year, is clearly revealed to be a quantity over quality offense by advanced metrics.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Bama’s offense this year is the best I’ve seen from a team in a long time.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:03 pm to SouthernInsanity
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scared of what was accomplished in 2019
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So 2019 QB vs QB that played in the SECCG:
JB: 3249yds 32TDs 4INTs
JF: 1724yds 13TDs 5INTs
These are stats against SEC only opponents and includes the SECCG.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:03 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Ole Miss, as I’ve been saying all year, is clearly revealed to be a quantity over quality offense by advanced metrics.
Well, when compared to those 3, sure.
Still pretty good advanced metrics on a per play/event basis.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:08 pm to Farmer1906
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So much for the GOAT season last year. Bama is about to top it.
Excluding our PLAYOFF game against OU, and maybe even against Clemson, is a bit disingenuous for the point being made.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:09 pm to SummerOfGeorge
It’s cool to not suck on offense anymore
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:10 pm to calcotron
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Excluding our PLAYOFF game against OU, and maybe even against Clemson, is a bit disingenuous for the point being made.
SECstatcat's only option is either only SEC play or everything. Seemed relevant just to compare SEC play compared to the other option.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 5:11 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Actually, I think its only fair if you calculate the numbers if the game is within 4 points in the 3rd quarter with 5 mins or less to go when the opposing teams has all TOs and there hasn't been any injuries or ejections 
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:55 pm to RollTide1987
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That blows what LSU accomplished last year out of the water.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 5:55 pm to lsupride87
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I wouldn't say they aren't remotely the same
The highest ranked passing defense in the SEC is Mizzou at 59th in the nation
Man, thats insane, and the reason why you are seeing multiple QBs look like freaks
Here you go
SEC pass defense 2020
- Median RANKING OF 84
59-mizzou
64-UK
71-BAMA
76-A&M
79-UF
80-UT
82-AU
86-AU
99-USCe
100-UGA
109-MSU
122-VANDY
123-LSU
125-OLE MISS
2019 rankings- Median ranking of 42
2-UK
13-MIZZOU
16-BAMA
19-UGA
25-UT
36-UF
49-A&M
51-LSU
60-AU
74-ARKY
79-USCE
86-VANDY
92-MSU
113-OLE MISS
This is all really bullcrap!
These stats include teams that have only played 1 or 2-3-4-5-6-7 games where Bama,Fla,Au & Ga have played 8 games.
Nice try, but it doesn't flush down the toilet!
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 6:00 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 6:12 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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SECstatcat's only option is either only SEC play or everything. Seemed relevant just to compare SEC play compared to the other option.
It's just a very random exclusion criteria. To say that beating a #4 team and that points after you went up by 28 don't count...that's just inventing bad data to work with. Kill the non-power 5, otherwise include the full data set.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 6:19 pm to calcotron
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points after you went up by 28 don't count
This is pretty standard, and it is done for a reason. The point of the data is to see how teams performed while trying to score and get yards. Garbage time generally is not a time when they are trying to do that, and the stats from that period are from non-starters that are not running the standard offense.
This is also why removing garbage time generally makes teams offensive numbers better, not worse.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 6:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
LSU 2019
Success Rate - 55.24%
Points Per Play - 0.68
Pts Per Drive - 3.81
% Drives with Score - 59.79%
Yards Per Play - 8.07
Explosive Play % - 15.49%
Negative Play % - 7.27%
3NOut % - 15.87%
Average FEI Defense Played - #48
Alabama 2020
Success Rate - 55.26%
Points Per Play - 0.72
Pts Per Drive - 4.14
% Drives with Score - 60.22%
Yards Per Play - 8.08
Explosive Play % - 17.29%
Negative Play % - 6.58%
3NOut % - 11.83%
Average FEI Defense Played - #38
Success Rate - 55.24%
Points Per Play - 0.68
Pts Per Drive - 3.81
% Drives with Score - 59.79%
Yards Per Play - 8.07
Explosive Play % - 15.49%
Negative Play % - 7.27%
3NOut % - 15.87%
Average FEI Defense Played - #48
Alabama 2020
Success Rate - 55.26%
Points Per Play - 0.72
Pts Per Drive - 4.14
% Drives with Score - 60.22%
Yards Per Play - 8.08
Explosive Play % - 17.29%
Negative Play % - 6.58%
3NOut % - 11.83%
Average FEI Defense Played - #38
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 6:29 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:02 pm to SouthernInsanity
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Seems some are scared of what was accomplished in 2019
Scared of the past? The Joe and Joe show ain't ever happening again. Meanwhile, we keep reloading and reloading and reloading...
Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:10 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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LSU 2019 - SEC vs SEC (all pt margins)
Success Rate - 53.76%
Points Per Play - 0.67
Pts Per Drive - 3.59
% Drives with Score - 57.89%
Yards Per Play - 8.12
Explosive Play % - 16.18%
Negative Play % - 7.19%
3NOut % - 17.54%
Alabama 2020 - SEC vs SEC (all pt margins)
Success Rate - 55.26%
Points Per Play - 0.72
Pts Per Drive - 4.14
% Drives with Score - 60.22%
Yards Per Play - 8.08
Explosive Play % - 17.29%
Negative Play % - 6.58%
3NOut % - 11.83%
Wait.
2020 Alabama is even better when you post all the data?
Posted on 12/2/20 at 7:13 pm to Box Geauxrilla
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I'm sorry LSU is about to ruin this for your with our awful defense.
I almost believe you
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