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re: Comparing 4 Offenses : 2019 LSU, 2020 Bama, 2020 Ole Miss, 2020 Florida
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:42 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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They play #12 this weekend
LSU is #12 on defense in YPP? That doesn't seem accurate. You sure it isn't 112?
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 10:43 pm
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Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:43 pm to TigerLunatik
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LSU is #12 on defense in YPP?
*SEC
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:43 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Still seems too high.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 10:44 pm to TigerLunatik
Ole Miss and Vanderbilt are still in this conference sir
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:22 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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in the SECCG.
So who’s the best defense you’ve played so far?
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:23 pm to SammyTiger
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So who’s the best defense you’ve played so far?
Georgia?
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:26 pm to SummerOfGeorge
#19th YPP Defense in the country.
When LSU a played them last year they were the #2 YPP defense in the country.
We also played Clemson: the #3 YPP defense in the country and Alabama #15 and Auburn #17.
When LSU a played them last year they were the #2 YPP defense in the country.
We also played Clemson: the #3 YPP defense in the country and Alabama #15 and Auburn #17.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:29 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:34 pm to SammyTiger
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#19th YPP Defense in the country.
Including the game against us, yes.
More importantly, #5 in FEI.
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We also played Clemson: the #3 YPP defense in the country and Alabama #15 and Auburn #17.
I didn't make this into an argument, and it certainly wasn't a troll, but comparing the opponents the stats were accrued against is not going to make LSU's case better.
As noted a page or two back, 2020 Alabama's average opponent FEI defense is #38. LSU's 2019 average opponent FEI defense was #48.
The better argument is defenses in 2020 just aren't as good due to the COVID stuff, which isn't really provable but certainly feels reasonable.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:36 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:41 pm to SummerOfGeorge
Except LSU played #1, 3,4 and 5 in FEI last year.
That’s more too 5 teams than top 20 teams.
That’s more too 5 teams than top 20 teams.
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:43 pm to SammyTiger
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Except LSU played #1, 3,4 and 5 in FEI last year.
Don't think they played #5 (unless I missed a game vs Notre Dame). They also played Georgia Southern, Utah State and Northwestern State.
So, again, the average rank was roughly the same.
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LSU 2019
Success Rate - 55.24%
Points Per Play - 0.68
Pts Per Drive - 3.81
% Drives with Score - 59.79%
Yards Per Play - 8.07
Explosive Play % - 15.49%
Negative Play % - 7.27%
3NOut % - 15.87%
Average FEI Defense Played - #48
Alabama 2020
Success Rate - 55.26%
Points Per Play - 0.72
Pts Per Drive - 4.14
% Drives with Score - 60.22%
Yards Per Play - 8.08
Explosive Play % - 17.29%
Negative Play % - 6.58%
3NOut % - 11.83%
Average FEI Defense Played - #38
We can sit around and pretend if only Alabama played some more Top 10 defenses they'd be slowed down, or we can be realistic.
#2 Northwestern
#3 Wisconsin
#4 Cincinnati
#6 Iowa
#7 Indiana
#8 Washington
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:48 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:57 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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We can sit around and pretend if only Alabama played some more Top 10 defenses they'd be slowed down, or we can be realistic.
#2 Northwestern
#3 Wisconsin
#4 Cincinnati
#6 Iowa
#7 Indiana
#8 Washington
You were definitely right, it Feels like the strongest argument is that 2020 stats are meaningless. Lol.
This post was edited on 12/2/20 at 11:58 pm
Posted on 12/2/20 at 11:59 pm to SammyTiger
It's just nearly impossible to compare anything across conference lines.
I think we all know the B1G hasn't all of a sudden become the 2011 SEC
I think we all know the B1G hasn't all of a sudden become the 2011 SEC
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 12:00 am
Posted on 12/3/20 at 12:01 am to SammyTiger
Top defenses LSU faced:
- (#2) 14-1 Clemson
- (#4) 12-2 Georgia
- (#6) 12-2 Florida
- (#8) 11-2 A1abana
- (#14) 9-4 Auburn
Top defenses A1abana has faced:
- (#5) 6-1 Texas A&N
- (#8) 6-2 Georgia
- (UR) 3-5 Kentucky
- (UR) 2-5 Mississippi State
- (UR) 2-5 Tennessee
It's very clear that they played equal competition!
- (#2) 14-1 Clemson
- (#4) 12-2 Georgia
- (#6) 12-2 Florida
- (#8) 11-2 A1abana
- (#14) 9-4 Auburn
Top defenses A1abana has faced:
- (#5) 6-1 Texas A&N
- (#8) 6-2 Georgia
- (UR) 3-5 Kentucky
- (UR) 2-5 Mississippi State
- (UR) 2-5 Tennessee
It's very clear that they played equal competition!
Posted on 12/3/20 at 12:03 am to WilliamTaylor21
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Top defenses LSU faced:
- (#8) 11-2 A1abana
Pete Golding fielding a "top defense" faced, hu?
Kinda makes you question all those numbers you used and whether the ones you picked actually mean much at all, doesn't it?
This post was edited on 12/3/20 at 12:05 am
Posted on 12/3/20 at 12:06 am to SummerOfGeorge
The Big 10 just has shite offenses.
They all play Ohio State and get smoked and play each other in like 15-12 games.
They all play Ohio State and get smoked and play each other in like 15-12 games.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 12:09 am to SammyTiger
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The Big 10 just has shite offenses.
They all play Ohio State and get smoked and play each other in like 15-12 games.
Who has tOSU smoked this year?
Posted on 12/3/20 at 12:12 am to Todd Greene
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Who has tOSU smoked this year?
They’ve dropped 38+ in every game.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 12:19 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Pete Golding fielding a "top defense" faced, hu?
I don't remember anyone complaining about his defense prior to the LSU trouncing - but I may be wrong
Let's see...
Net Points Per Drive, Offensive and Defensive PPD - by SummerTimeGeorge
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DEFENSIVE PPD
5. Georgia (0.79)
8. A1abana (1.02)
FEI Ratings - by SummerTimeGeorge
quote:Whale whale whale...
DEFENSE
1. Clemson
2. Ohio St
3. Oregon
4. Wisconsin
5. Iowa
6. South Carolina
7. Northwestern
8. Penn St
9. A1abana
10. Auburn
Posted on 12/3/20 at 12:24 am to WilliamTaylor21
I can't believe I bought into Wisconsin. Sheesh.
Posted on 12/3/20 at 12:27 am to SummerOfGeorge
Don't mean a thing without the ring. Don't let Clemson beat you and take a 3-2 lead in yalls playoff series.
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