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re: College Football's 'Influential Voices' Ready to Discuss 8-Team Playoff Format

Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:11 pm to
Posted by AUCE05
Member since Dec 2009
42559 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:11 pm to
I agree. It should be 8. OSU is playing the best right now. However, ND needs to join a conference or go pound sand.
Posted by TxWadingFool
Middle Coast
Member since Sep 2014
4368 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:13 pm to
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Can't wait to see the 7 and 8 seeds get steamrolled by Bama and Clemson.





Yep cause Bama really steam rolled UGa a couple weeks back.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64550 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:13 pm to
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How would you feel about a six team playoff with byes for the top two?


I wouldn't be totally against it, but adding more teams just opens the door to push for more teams to be added down the road. If (I say if, but I do think 8 will happen) we do move to an 8 team playoff, I think the first two round games should be played on the home field of the higher ranked team and conference title games should disappear. But outside of all of that, I don't like the idea of there being a potential 3 loss team in the playoffs. And had UCF lost a game this year, that 100% would have happened as Washington, Florida, LSU, and PSU were 9-12 in the final CFP Poll, all with 3 losses. Then, one of those teams gets left out and we have this same argument again because "insert team with same record as another playoff team with similar resume" got screwed. It will never end.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23114 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:16 pm to
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4 teams are more than enough to determine a true champion. IMO, the BCS was fine as is. There were only two years (2001 and 2003) where I think the two best teams weren't playing for the national title (should have been Miami/Oregon in 2001 and LSU/USC in 2003). Adding 2 more teams fixes that. If you fall outside the top 4, you didn't do enough in the regular season to earn the right to call yourself "the best." DWI



I mean let's just say that OSU didn't lose to Purdue and OU didn't lose to Texas this year. What are we doing here?

Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean you should have a system where when it does you're completely screwed. There is currently no contingency for 5 P5 champs to be undefeated.

People would be fired in the real world for having no contingency in place for that type of f-up
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:16 pm to
The only thing I don’t like is the conference champ getting an automatic bid. Pitt or northwestern could have gotten in

The way these divisions are set up are not equal and it’s a stupid way to decide who makes a conference champ game


Get rid of the,conference champ games if we do this

And then maybe tua can get a heisman
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28585 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:20 pm to
College football already has the best, most compelling and expansive playoff in all of sports. It’s the regular season! No other sport has as much intensity through a season. Every Saturday is a big deal and feels like a big deal....

But hey, let’s dilute the greatest thing of the greatest sport so 9-3 Wisconsin with one win over a top 25 team can feel special by making the playoffs.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64550 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:21 pm to
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I mean let's just say that OSU didn't lose to Purdue and OU didn't lose to Texas this year. What are we doing here?

Just because it hasn't happened doesn't mean you should have a system where when it does you're completely screwed. There is currently no contingency for 5 P5 champs to be undefeated.

People would be fired in the real world for having no contingency in place for that type of f-up

There is never going to be a contingency plan for every possible situation that would arise. What if we go to 8 teams, have 5 undefeated P5s, an undefeated Notre Dame, and three undefeated G5 schools with similar resumes? The main reason this is being discussed is because UCF was left out the last two years and Ohio State keeps getting blown out by bad teams. The likelihood of all 5 P5 conference with teams going undefeated in the same season is very low (it's never happened in the history of the sport, mind you). Investing hundreds of millions of dollars on a "problem" that has never occurred and is not likely to occur is the type of decision that gets you fired. Let's be honest, the P5 programs bitching just want a mulligan.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:21 pm to
So, we have to expand to give undeserving teams an extra game?

What kind of bullshite is that? Those losers can go frick themselves.
Posted by biggsc
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Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:22 pm to
We posted the same article 1 min apart
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:23 pm to
Plus there is inequities in schedule. Conference who play a nine game schedule are not on the same level as a team that only plays 8, etc

College football has so many differing schedules and competition that it would be better to have a playoff that includes all regions and conferences and takes almost all the bias of “this team would get blown out by Alabama bullshite” that permeates the country
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:23 pm to
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So, we have to expand to give undeserving teams an extra game? What kind of bullshite is that? Those losers can go frick themselves.


I'm not scrolling back through your history, but I bet you were singing a different tune last year
Posted by JackTraven
Maryland
Member since Aug 2016
5581 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:23 pm to
The rage after 3 SEC teams all get in will be pretty entertaining.
Posted by Vecchio Cane
Ivory Tower
Member since Jul 2016
17722 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:24 pm to
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The rage after 3 SEC teams all get in will be pretty entertaining.


Yesssssss! THIS is what I'm waiting for
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:25 pm to
This year you would have. Alabama, Georgia, Clemson, Oklahoma, Ohio state, ucf, Michigan and Washington. I’m guessing

That wouldn’t be too bad. New blood would keep more people interested across the country

Ugh. Skip that. Sub Notre Dame for Michigan
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:27 pm to
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I bet you were singing a different tune last year


You would lose. But it's typical of you to make a speculative, low IQ post like that.
Posted by Buckeye06
Member since Dec 2007
23114 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Investing hundreds of millions of dollars on a "problem" that has never occurred and is not likely to occur is the type of decision that gets you fired. Let's be honest, the P5 programs bitching just want a mulligan


i guess I will never understand this argument. You will make more money with 8 than with 4, that is factual. You will have all regions of the country involved, and based on this proposal, even a Cinderella story to cheer for.

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he likelihood of all 5 P5 conference with teams going undefeated in the same season is very low


It's not much better when all 5 have a loss, which has happened before. Then it turns into a beauty pageant. There was an SEC fan complaining about going up to OSU for a playoff game, yet B1G teams are absolutely dinged for "winning ugly" in less than ideal conditions. To my knowledge advanced stats don't take conditions into account (so rain/snow/sleet etc isn't considered)

No there isn't a perfect scenario, but the P5 conferences were the one who created the playoff, and whoever agreed was dumb from the beginning knowing at least 1 champ was out every year regardless of their record
Posted by BradPitt
Where the wild things are
Member since Nov 2009
13389 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:35 pm to
First it was "the BCS will solve the AP bullshite..."

Then, "a four team playoff makes it fair".

Now, "An 8 team playoff will leave us with zero controversy this time, gayz, I promise!"
Posted by PEPE
Member since Jun 2018
8198 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:37 pm to
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Having 4 spots for 5 major conferences and ND is insane and always has been a dumb idea in theory and in practice


Why is every conference entitled to a spot? The PAC12 this year is a great example.

They do not have a single team worthy of a playoff spot, not even close.

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Now, "An 8 team playoff will leave us with zero controversy this time, gayz, I promise!"


Seriously, you have fans irate their 19-17 team bubbles out of the basketball tournament, changing the system to try to alleviate bitching is a fool's errand.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 12:39 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64550 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:38 pm to
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You will make more money with 8 than with 4, that is factual

Is it factual? They will lose millions of dollars on all the other bowls in the process, and there are A LOT of them. And why should I care about how much money is made off of these games? How is it relevant to crowning a champion?
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You will have all regions of the country involved

Why is that necessary?
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even a Cinderella story to cheer for.

See, this is my problem. I don't want a Cinderella. i want the best team and the team that earned it, not a 9-3 team that got hot for a few weeks.
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Then it turns into a beauty pageant.

Meh, it turns into "who did you beat" and "who beat you" and "by how much"
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There was an SEC fan complaining about going up to OSU for a playoff game

Who and in what context?
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B1G teams are absolutely dinged for "winning ugly" in less than ideal conditions.

or for getting drilled by average teams in their own conference. No oine "dinged" OSU for losing at home to Va Tech in 2014. They still made, and won, the CFP. OSU got dinged for getting blown out by Iowa and Purdue, as they should have. UGA got dinged for getting blown out by LSU, as they should have.

But what are these "less than ideal conditions"?
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whoever agreed was dumb from the beginning knowing at least 1 champ was out every year regardless of their record


I don't see a problem with that. All P5 conferences, year-to-year, are not created equally. You know this even if you refuse to admit it.
This post was edited on 12/12/18 at 12:42 pm
Posted by Projectpat
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2011
10521 posts
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:38 pm to
frick. That.

Any “leaving deserving teams out” or “more money on the table” type argument is completely moronic. You can make that argument at ANY number. There’s crying about teams that get left out of the NCAAB tournament every year.
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