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College Fball Playoff Bubble Teams + At Large - Resume/Performance Metrics
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:59 am
Posted on 12/2/24 at 9:59 am
Tried to get as much of the stuff people seem to talk about and toss about into one table for reference.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 12:05 pm
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Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:02 am to SummerOfGeorge
So… Bama
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:04 am to SummerOfGeorge
Bama is IN
It's really not an argument at this point
It's really not an argument at this point
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:04 am to BamaChemE
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So… Bama
Depends how you weigh things. Miami has the worst set of losses and worst set of wins while also not having a better set of performance ratings because they haven't even really good great in wins this year. I'm not sure how you can put them in unless you just say "2 losses is better than 3 end of story".
Ole Miss has to bank on performance metrics and the fact that all 3 losses were really close. Their wart is losing at home to a Kentucky team with 0 other P4 wins and generally behind behind Alabama in all but performance rankings.
Carolina has to bank on no bad losses and finishing strong. Their warts are they lost to both SEC teams they are competing against and lost 2 games at home, plus generally being behind Alabama in all the computer metrics.
Alabama has to bank on overall strength of wins + general lead in most all of the computer metrics. Their wart is they have 2 of the 3 worst losses of the 3 SEC teams and one of them was by 21 pts.
Miami has to bank on 2 being less than 3. Their warts are basically everything else.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 10:15 am
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:11 am to SummerOfGeorge
If Cam Ward wins the Heisman do they put them in just so the Heisman is playing or do they count the Heisman a consolation prize for missing the playoffs?
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:15 am to collegefootballisbroken
Miami is out IMO
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:17 am to collegefootballisbroken
Cam Ward is not winning the Heisman. It is a two man race and he isn’t in it.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:18 am to SummerOfGeorge
Bama will only get in if SMU and Georgia both win.
Of the four teams outside looking in, it will come down to Bama and Miami.
Of the four teams outside looking in, it will come down to Bama and Miami.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:31 am to BigOrangeLoyalist
If SMU wins, we have a very high probability of getting in.
I think that number will be very low if Clemson wins, although the SEC is probably pressuring the committee about B10 getting 4 guaranteed and us getting at least that many as well.
Will be a big time shitshow if Clemson wins and the debate is SMU/Bama when SMU has played the schedule they have to date.
Their best wins would be Duke and… Louisville I guess? And would have lost to the only two ranked teams they played against.
I think that number will be very low if Clemson wins, although the SEC is probably pressuring the committee about B10 getting 4 guaranteed and us getting at least that many as well.
Will be a big time shitshow if Clemson wins and the debate is SMU/Bama when SMU has played the schedule they have to date.
Their best wins would be Duke and… Louisville I guess? And would have lost to the only two ranked teams they played against.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 10:33 am
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:37 am to SummerOfGeorge
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I'm not sure how you can put them in unless you just say "2 losses is better than 3 end of story".
This is likely the case
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:47 am to bamabenny
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Will be a big time shitshow if Clemson wins and the debate is SMU/Bama when SMU has played the schedule they have to date.
Yeah, SMU v Bama for a final spot would be one of the worst case scenarios for the committee since it throws into relief the talking exact points they tend to waffle about:
Rewarding schedule strength and quality wins
Bama 3-1 vs Top 25
SMU 0-2 vs Top 25
Not punishing Championship game losers
SMU seems to be fairly clearly in at this point since they avoided losing to any of the Vandy level opponents on their schedule
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:51 am to wm72
Agree, the easy way out would be SMU in but that opens up a whole different discussion on relative strength of conferences. SMU would lose to Clemson who got boatraced by UGA and lost at home to the other SEC team they played.
It’s going to be interesting if ACC steals a bid from the SEC while the B10 was propped up by shite OOC and intra-conference scheduling to get 4 in.
Keep in mind this current format is only approved for two years and the SEC/B10 literally hold all the cards.
It’s going to be interesting if ACC steals a bid from the SEC while the B10 was propped up by shite OOC and intra-conference scheduling to get 4 in.
Keep in mind this current format is only approved for two years and the SEC/B10 literally hold all the cards.
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 10:52 am
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:53 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Depends how you weigh things.
Not really. There are 4 broad categories in the list. Bama leads in 3 of them. The only one they don't lead in is how bad their losses are. They're second in that (behind SC).
That chart is a huge argument for Bama.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:54 am to SummerOfGeorge
It’s Bama and an SMU loser of the ACC championship at this point. Given they have SMU 8th in the AP, that’s a signal “win or else”
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:55 am to collegefootballisbroken
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If Cam Ward wins the Heisman
Has he even been in the mix since the loss to Ga Tech? I haven't heard a peep about him having a legitimate chance since then.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 10:55 am to SummerOfGeorge
Have a down vote speak english.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:00 am to SummerOfGeorge
Updated to add SMU (currently, not with Clemson loss factored in) as well as some others who are safely in just for reference.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:18 am to SummerOfGeorge
Georgia added
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:30 am to llfshoals
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It’s Bama and an SMU loser of the ACC championship at this point. Given they have SMU 8th in the AP, that’s a signal “win or else”
If SMU is in the top 12 of playoff rankings going into the ACCCG, they should be in regardless.
I'm a firm believer that the championship games should not COST a team a spot, but if they're not ranked high enough going in then they NEED to win the game to make it.
If there were to be a scenario where it costs the loser a trip, they have to get absolutely blown out (we're talking 30+ points) AND they were only ranked high enough to be teetering on making it. That should only happen when a team has a really good record and a really weak SOS.
Posted on 12/2/24 at 11:32 am to skrayper
I think SMU's resume and the fact that they haven't played a Top 15 level team lowers the "how bad was the loss" factor in the ACCCG to around 2 TDs, but I agree that they should not be punished for being given an extra game basically on the road vs a Top 20/25 team.
If they lose 21-17 or something they should be in. If they lose 34-14 then when coupled with a pretty empty resume then I think they lose that benefit.
If they lose 21-17 or something they should be in. If they lose 34-14 then when coupled with a pretty empty resume then I think they lose that benefit.
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