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re: Coaches Association asks NCAA rules committee to address players 'faking' injuries
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:27 am to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:27 am to BluegrassBelle
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I'm not a big fan of this. Sometimes players legitimately have cramps that can easily be taken care of in one play or less
Agreed. Also, players can have the wind knocked out of them or get stepped on and literally just walk it off or need bandaging. Some players with a prior injury can tweak that injury, stay down for a minute, then get up and have it rewrapped and go right back out to play. There are a number of scenarios where a player can be legitimately hurt and then be able to play before the series is over.
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Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:31 am to paperwasp
Not sure if they want to go down this road from a liability point of view.
All it will take is 1 player that continues to play while injured and get injured even worse and says he didn't come out of the game because he didn't want to cost his team a time out or risk missing the whole series if he wasn't injured that bad.
That would turn into a nightmare!!
All it will take is 1 player that continues to play while injured and get injured even worse and says he didn't come out of the game because he didn't want to cost his team a time out or risk missing the whole series if he wasn't injured that bad.
That would turn into a nightmare!!
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:32 am to NYCAuburn
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The old 90s madden cheating
It's not cheating. If the offense doesnt sub and hurries up to line and snaps it, then the defense doesn't have time to substitute.
As a Barner, you should be well versed in this offensive scheme.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:36 am to BamaMamaof2
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Not sure if they want to go down this road from a liability point of view.
All it will take is 1 player that continues to play while injured and get injured even worse and says he didn't come out of the game because he didn't want to cost his team a time out or risk missing the whole series if he wasn't injured that bad.
Very good point.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:43 am to paperwasp
This is a great idea. frick you Auburn and Ole piss
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:49 am to Pig Soiee
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This is a great idea. frick you Auburn and Ole piss
Posted on 2/17/21 at 11:58 am to NATidefan
quote:I know.
It's not cheating.
but it certainly isnt this
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HUNH not allowing the defense to swap out players.
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If the offense doesnt sub and hurries up to line and snaps it, then the defense doesn't have time to substitute.
Why should they be given extra opportunity to sub beyond the offense? The offense is already limited far more than the defense. Do you think the defense should be given more advantages beyond what they are already given?
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:04 pm to Pig Soiee
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his is a great idea. frick you Auburn and Ole piss
Remember the days when Saban and Bert were so concerned for “player safety”? HUNH was literally killing babies.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:05 pm to Datfish
Did you post that thinking LSU had never done such a thing?
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:25 pm to paperwasp
If he is able to keep playing, he's able to get his butt off the field.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:33 pm to NATidefan
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As a Barner, you should be well versed in this offensive scheme.
Should we though? The past 5 or 6 years Gus has seemingly subbed after every play to get the ideal personnel on the field to prove his genius. That 2013 style of offense has long been dead on the plains
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:36 pm to NYCAuburn
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but it certainly isnt this
HUNH not allowing the defense to swap out players.
It is exactly that. It's one of the HUNH biggest advantages. It prevents the defense from having time to substitute players.
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The offense is already limited far more than the defense.
How so? Especially in an era of HUNH, RPO with the three yard rule, targeting rules, etc.
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Do you think the defense should be given more advantages beyond what they are already given?
What advantages are defenses given?
As far as whether or not they should be given the time to sub, I guess it just depends on what you want football to be.
Do you want it to be a fast break offense with defenses on their heels not being able to sub in situational players and/or rested players for short yardage situations vs 3rd and long, etc.
Or do you want it to be more of a chess match where both teams get to line up with their best players for the situation?
Personally, I've always liked defense and I liked the chess match of being able to sub in run stuffers and get those 4th and 1 and goal line stops or bring in the pass rushers on 3rd and 10 and get a big sack or force a incomplete pass.
Like it or not, the HUNH and RPO three yard rule have crippled the defenses of the past.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:38 pm to paperwasp
With the way the rules are now, if a player injures his arm, he has to fall to the ground. Because they won't let him sub out any other way.
And that's what makes this so difficult. I don't want to see fake injuries and I can't remember Alabama ever doing that, hope they never do. But there is no real way to determine what is and isn't legit.
What they need to address is flopping.
And that's what makes this so difficult. I don't want to see fake injuries and I can't remember Alabama ever doing that, hope they never do. But there is no real way to determine what is and isn't legit.
What they need to address is flopping.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 12:39 pm
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:39 pm to StringedInstruments
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They have to sit out potentially 5+ plays just because a few players across the league have faked injuries to slow the momentum (subjective btw) of the offense?
then use a time out.... most coaches dont know when or how to use them appropriately anyways....
EDIT: or maybe look to basket ball for the solution. add a couple of 20 sec timeouts for this situation
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:39 pm to paperwasp
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What that exact deterrent is remains to be seen. One potential option, Berry said, would require an injured player to miss the remainder of the series. Coaches would be able to use a timeout in order to "buy" that player back into the game right away.
Coaches would just run in johnny walkon to fake it in that case.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:39 pm to paperwasp
Give it teeth.
Either use a timeout or the player sits out the rest of the quarter
Either use a timeout or the player sits out the rest of the quarter
Posted on 2/17/21 at 12:48 pm to theenemy
Can the offense have it anymore their way these days? HUNH has nothing to do with OC's being brilliant. They either wear the D down because they can't get off the field or they are going so fast that the D doesn't get fully set. Neither requires more talent or brilliance.
The deck has been stacked against defenses and DCs since 2008. Fake injuries seem like a great way to shake your middle finger at the rules makers. And less than brilliant OCs and equally stupid QBs that can't read a defense if their life depended on it.
The deck has been stacked against defenses and DCs since 2008. Fake injuries seem like a great way to shake your middle finger at the rules makers. And less than brilliant OCs and equally stupid QBs that can't read a defense if their life depended on it.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:20 pm to NYCAuburn
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The offense is already limited far more than the defense.
huh? Maybe 20 years ago. Certainly not now.
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:33 pm to paperwasp
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Coaches Association asks NCAA rules committee to address players 'faking' injuries
Easy, easy solution. Fine the head coach $250K every time one of his players is caught doing it.
I've always had the same thought about flopping in pro sports. $250K fine for each individual instance would put an end to it with the quickness.
Hit people in the wallet and they'll listen.
This post was edited on 2/17/21 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 2/17/21 at 1:37 pm to Datfish
Poor lad never recovered.
Thoughts and prayers.
Thoughts and prayers.
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