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re: Cignetti just showed
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:34 pm to GoGators1995
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:34 pm to GoGators1995
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Only 7 blue chippers on their entire roster and beat both Oregon and Ohio St away from home.
When recruiting services are grading guys like Mendoza 3* & Jets Jefferson 2* (even with an offer from LSU), may be time for people to start taking them with more a grain of salt than we already do.
I know there are misses & busts inevitably, but I feel like it has gotten worse the past decade than I ever recall.
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Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:35 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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I thought Boise State would forever be the best Cinderella story in CFB. Was wrong.
I’d like to see more chatter around the limitations of recruiting media / grading HS players & the value of a staff who ignores that and actually does their own evals.
IU has not had a class over #15. Yet, they have a Heisman-caliber QB with ice in his veins, TWO running backs that are more violent than Hardy at Mizzou (meant as a compliment), a top tier WR, and a defense full of dudes who hit like Georgia.
I always knew On3 etc had their limits, but now I’m thinking they are entirely full of sh*t when it comes to recognizing under the radar talent (offer list, HS prestige).
Cig deserves more praise for his staff’s evals than perhaps anything else. He is not winning with an untalented team so much as he assembled a deceptively talented roster.
Bear would talk about this.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:36 pm to Vulcan Materials
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Kiffin is a fraud and people will see when he gets to LSU. He could just as easily get top talent at OM if he tried hard enough but he’s too young and doesn’t have that dawg in him like Cignetti does.
I dont think kiffin is a fraud. Hes q good coach but idk that's he's worth all this. His resume is just like Brian kellys
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:38 pm to 3down10
Very cool video & they are definitely well coached, but the “7 blue chips” thing is still BS IMO lol.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:38 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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None of Huepel’s UCF teams would’ve beaten OSU this year.
Oklahoma State sucks this year, what are you talking about?
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:41 pm to Vulcan Materials
It is interesting that this guy stated Indiana when they had no shot, absolutely no f****** shot at even making the playoffs let alone winning it.
The amount of talent Ole Miss has compared to Indiana according to scouts and analysts and recruiting dwarfs the amount of talent at Indiana. Yeah Kiffin felt he couldn't get it done, it may be a stretch but if anything I think it says more about kiffin then it does about Ole Miss. Which is insane to me.
The amount of talent Ole Miss has compared to Indiana according to scouts and analysts and recruiting dwarfs the amount of talent at Indiana. Yeah Kiffin felt he couldn't get it done, it may be a stretch but if anything I think it says more about kiffin then it does about Ole Miss. Which is insane to me.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:45 pm to DeathByTossDive225
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When recruiting services are grading guys like Mendoza 3* & Jets Jefferson 2* (even with an offer from LSU), may be time for people to start taking them with more a grain of salt than we already do.
I know there are misses & busts inevitably, but I feel like it has gotten worse the past decade than I ever recall.
is not that simple. Patrick Willis played for a high school that graduated like 30 players per year
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:47 pm to VFL67
Does this finally show that head coaches don't deserve the credit and the pay that they get and that it's all been smok and mirrors the whole time? That scouting and evaluating talent is all b*******?
If you would want to admit that the scouts and evaluating and all of that could have got this so f****** wrong, then what else are they getting wrong? Does that mean that there really is no difference than a five star and a three-star and if you want to argue that there is a difference then how do you explain what Indiana has done is it just a 25% chance that the scouts got it right and that maybe the five star is really a three-star and the three star is really a five-star?
Is the coach really just that much better than every other coach that has ever existed including Saban and Bear Bryant and all the legends? Doing this much with so much less how do you explain it?
They have no facilities, they have no money, nobody wants to go live in Indiana, they have no talent, but somehow defying all the experts.
If you would want to admit that the scouts and evaluating and all of that could have got this so f****** wrong, then what else are they getting wrong? Does that mean that there really is no difference than a five star and a three-star and if you want to argue that there is a difference then how do you explain what Indiana has done is it just a 25% chance that the scouts got it right and that maybe the five star is really a three-star and the three star is really a five-star?
Is the coach really just that much better than every other coach that has ever existed including Saban and Bear Bryant and all the legends? Doing this much with so much less how do you explain it?
They have no facilities, they have no money, nobody wants to go live in Indiana, they have no talent, but somehow defying all the experts.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 1:49 pm to VFL67
Cignetti is a great coach, a better man, and will always be remembered for what he has done for Indiana.
Shame that Alabama is going to eliminate them rather easily in the second round, but he’s building something up there nonetheless..
Shame that Alabama is going to eliminate them rather easily in the second round, but he’s building something up there nonetheless..
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:02 pm to RTRnFlorida
quote:Won’t know that until next year.
Loses 18 seniors and his QB. He will be forgotten next year
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:03 pm to TheePalmetto
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Shame that Alabama is going to eliminate them rather easily in the second round…
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:04 pm to Mizzouligan
quote:You don't remember Peterson at Boise State?
Cignetti is a unicorn. I’ve never seen anything remotely like what he’s done at Indiana.
So impressive.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 2:05 pm
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:04 pm to VFL67
Cig, Smart, and Day are far and away the 3 best coaches in college football. It's still hard to wrap my head around the position that Indiana is in right now. That guy is a fricking coach.
This post was edited on 12/7/25 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:17 pm to theballguy
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Bama needs to go hard on getting Cignetti at some point.
I don’t know. Cignetti is wired a bit different.
Where Lane wants to put himself in a position to attract the highest number of the best athletes he can on an annual basis , Cignetti seems perfectly satisfied to be in a spot where he can find enough of the types of guys he’s specifically looking for…..and then he’ll happily work with that to kick your arsse.
I’m not quite sure “we can land you all the 4 and 5-star athletes you can dream of” necessarily impresses Cignetti because he seems to get more genuine satisfaction out of beating your high-star guys with his “misfits” at this point in his life.
It’s a great story.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:19 pm to theballguy
Why he’s retiring in just a few years he is like 64 yrs old. Great coach and had they hired him instead of DeBoer it would have been a great stop gap for about 5/6 years but not now.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:20 pm to DeathByTossDive225
Yes this is the real take away.
How much of the NCAA parasitic industries are absolute frauds
How much of the NCAA parasitic industries are absolute frauds
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:21 pm to VFL67
I wanted Cignetti but he was already extended and unavailable. I don’t disagree that he’s the best coach today
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:22 pm to theballguy
Cig has more booster power at IU than Bama.
Posted on 12/7/25 at 2:24 pm to hookem33
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Day
Uh no he had the best roster money can buy and was a playoff loss last year from getting fired. He is nothing like Smart, or Cignetti
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