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re: Cam Newton is the best player the SEC has had in my lifetime as a fan (circa 2000)

Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:37 am to
Posted by LarryCulpepper
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:37 am to
The decision to pull the ball or hand it off was made for cam pre-snap by Gus everytime. He never read the DE, he was told what to do with the ball before the play was snapped. Same thing with Nick Marshall.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:39 am to
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The decision to pull the ball or hand it off was made for cam pre-snap by Gus everytime. He never read the DE, he was told what to do with the ball before the play was snapped. Same thing with Nick Marshall.



Absolute BS.

Cam is a starting QB in the NFL........but he doesn't have the "mental acuity to run an offense".
Posted by Fear The Thumb
Coastal, AL
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:42 am to
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Absolute BS.

Cam is a starting QB in the NFL........but he doesn't have the "mental acuity to run an offense".



Also NFL MVP
Posted by Tigerfan56
Member since May 2010
10520 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:48 am to
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Not to take anything away from Cam, but he didn't have the mental acuity to run an offense.


am I in a time machine?

He was an NFL starting QB since day 1, and still is today some 8 years later. No one at that level has ever questioned his mental acumen.

Yet some still are running with the narrative that Cam wasn’t smart enough to run an offense?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:53 am to
The saying is true.........you can't fix stupid.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 9:56 am to
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The decision to pull the ball or hand it off was made for cam pre-snap by Gus everytime. He never read the DE, he was told what to do with the ball before the play was snapped. Same thing with Nick Marshall.
Just quoted to laugh at you
Posted by LarryCulpepper
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:04 am to
"Half the time when I’m saying a play, I’m wrong, and those guys, they fix it," Newton said. "It’s like my auto correct." - Via Fox Sports


"Cam Newton is no brainiac. From all accounts, he came off as an idiot on Jon Gruden's show on ESPN. He looked as if he had no idea what was going on. He was stumped by Gruden's questions" - Jim Folsom

“It was a bad fit from the get-go. If you would’ve put me with any other quarterback, let’s be real, you know what I’m saying? Any other accurate quarterback like [Aaron] Rodgers or Eli Manning or Big Ben — anybody! — quarterbacks with knowledge, that know how to place a ball and give you a better chance to catch the ball. It just felt like I wasn’t in that position.” - Kelvin Benjamin
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:06 am to
Manziel was better than both, and the statistics support that
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:06 am to
thats your logic for your idiotic statement?

You must be one of those Lanier Tech grad/UGA fans
Posted by LarryCulpepper
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:17 am to
Jon Gruden puts Cam on the spot


Here's a little reading material for you bud.


and yes, a quote from the man in question. A quote from a NFL analyst and a quote from one of Cam's top receivers he played with is enough reference to constitute validity my man.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:24 am to
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Jon Gruden puts Cam on the spot


Still laughing

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A quote from a NFL analyst and a quote from one of Cam's top receivers he played with is enough reference to constitute validity my man.


I get it, you have a double digit iq. it's okay... Is this your first year of football?
Posted by Terrific Tales
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:25 am to
Sure, having Cam on our team would have made our team better, but that is a stupid argument to make regarding who is the better player. One plays the most influential role in the game, and touches the ball every snap, the other plays in the secondary. Tyrann has stats and plays that don’t even make remote sense for a player of his position, and he should have been a Heisman winner. He is the most electric college player I have ever seen and somehow from the secondary felt like he was a threat to do something big on every play. He is by far the most impressive college football player I have ever seen play.

If the question is just oh would you switch out Cam for anybody? Obviously not but that doesn’t mean Matthieu wasn’t a better player. Cam was the best QB and QB is by far the most individually influential position on the field. IMO he wasn’t the better player.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:27 am to
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“It was a bad fit from the get-go. If you would’ve put me with any other quarterback, let’s be real, you know what I’m saying? Any other accurate quarterback like [Aaron] Rodgers or Eli Manning or Big Ben — anybody! — quarterbacks with knowledge, that know how to place a ball and give you a better chance to catch the ball. It just felt like I wasn’t in that position.” - Kelvin Benjamin


Unfortunately for Kelvin he eventually had other QB's and we realized Cam was propping him up.

The fact that this thread hasn't already finished with a unanimous "it's Cam" is a wonderful reminder of why Cam was so special beyond just his play on the field. The LSU guys advocating for Honeybadger is the best.
This post was edited on 7/19/19 at 12:03 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 10:54 am to
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Unfortunately for Kelvin he eventually had other QB's and we realized Cam was propping him up.



Ssh, you are ruining the, "it was Cam's Fault" schtick.

KB 3 years after Cam 597 yards, 3 years with Cam 2424
Posted by Scoob
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Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 11:00 am to
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quote:

Tyrann Mathieu is the best defensive player in same time frame. Nobody can compare to the plays that dude used to make. He's made plays on the field that I haven't seen before or since. Absolutely amazing football player. Geaux Honey Badger.



Eric Berry was in that time frame.


This has little to do with the OP. And to clarify the difference between Mathieu and any other defender- most elite players are physical demigods. Mathieu was at best a 3rd down scatback in body, too short, too small, average speed for a little guy. But he made about 8 plays on the field that season, that would have been left out of the Waterboy because they were too unbelievable.

Yeah, Cam is the best single player I've seen in the SEC in a long, long time.
Posted by thirdlawson
Nashville
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 11:00 am to
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“It was a bad fit from the get-go. If you would’ve put me with any other quarterback, let’s be real, you know what I’m saying? Any other accurate quarterback like [Aaron] Rodgers or Eli Manning or Big Ben — anybody! — quarterbacks with knowledge, that know how to place a ball and give you a better chance to catch the ball. It just felt like I wasn’t in that position.” - Kelvin Benjamin



Kelvin Benjamin? The guy who played for 3 teams in 2 seasons? Currently not on a team? Played with 2 league MVPs and still sucks? THAT Kelvin Benjamin?
Posted by VolsOut4Harambe
Atlanta, GA
Member since Sep 2017
12856 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 11:58 am to
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“It was a bad fit from the get-go. If you would’ve put me with any other quarterback, let’s be real, you know what I’m saying? Any other accurate quarterback like [Aaron] Rodgers or Eli Manning or Big Ben — anybody! — quarterbacks with knowledge, that know how to place a ball and give you a better chance to catch the ball. It just felt like I wasn’t in that position.” - Kelvin Benjamin


Yeah, because KB has had so much success with the other QBs he’s played with.

If you’re going to troll at least do it right.
Posted by Rougarou4lsu
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2003
3079 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 1:27 pm to
In football...right?
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38012 posts
Posted on 7/19/19 at 4:53 pm to
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Swap Cam with any other SEC player since 2000, and that AU team is losing at least 1 game, likely 2 or more


More.

The correct answer is more.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/19/19 at 5:03 pm to
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The decision to pull the ball or hand it off was made for cam pre-snap by Gus everytime. He never read the DE, he was told what to do with the ball before the play was snapped. Same thing with Nick Marshall.


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