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re: Bruce Pearl is one of the best coaches in college basketball history
Posted on 2/16/25 at 9:21 am to BluegrassBelle
Posted on 2/16/25 at 9:21 am to BluegrassBelle
Fair. Coach Cal is the Les Miles of basketball.
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Posted on 2/16/25 at 9:21 am to BluegrassBelle
Rick Pitino
Pitino? I wouldn’t be able to put Bruce above Gary Williams with a straight face much less Roy Williams, dean, k, wooden. Hell jim boeheim won a title and played multiple final fours running 2-3(which was outdated af). Lame conversation unless he wins it all this year.
Pitino? I wouldn’t be able to put Bruce above Gary Williams with a straight face much less Roy Williams, dean, k, wooden. Hell jim boeheim won a title and played multiple final fours running 2-3(which was outdated af). Lame conversation unless he wins it all this year.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 9:57 am to BluegrassBelle
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got black balled by the basketball community because
He blew the whistle on Illinois’ recruitment of Deon Thomas.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:00 am to StringedInstruments
Most of the 5 stars are freshmen one and done. Auburns top 8 are seniors or grad transfers. Big difference in 18 year old and 22-24 year olds
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:01 am to superstroke33
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One final four. 17-13 overall record in NCAAs
One had to consider the places he took over. It’s not like he came into Duke or Kentucky and did what he’s doing.
That said, I think this season may be a shift in the needle towards “great coach” or “great regular season coach”
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:41 am to superstroke33
quote:would those numbers be different if he patrolled the sideline at North carolina for 20 years? he has been at UW Milwaukee the Vols and fricking Auburn......
I think he's a good coach, but "one of the best in CBA history"?
One final four. 17-13 overall record in NCAAs
Maybe he wins it all this year, but it's premature to call him one of the best in history.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:42 am to AlextheBodacious
I highly doubt that but he is one of the best today
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:48 am to jangalang
quote:its not just that he turned bad programs into good teams....making the tournament every year and vols and auburn solid job. 5 seeds, 9 seeds, occassional 2 or 3 seed. he has made both programs number 1 in the nation multiple times and had several heartbreaks at UT where a couple bounces the other way an he for sure reaches a final 4. UT mich st comes to mind. auburn...if UVA misses a FT or backcourt is called he probably has a title.....so he turned these schools into like the best teams in the nation. wooden, K, and others dont have that on the resume. of course we wont ever know.pitino did it at UK, UL, and now St johns so thats impressive but thats still far better starting points than pearl has had
I highly doubt that but he is one of the best today
Posted on 2/16/25 at 11:06 am to bigDgator
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Duke had no history before coach K.
Duke played in the national title game three years before K was hired. They had been to 4 final fours in the 17 years before he was hired. He certainly elevated them to a level they had never been before, but they were a very respectable program before he was hired.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 11:15 am to AlextheBodacious
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If your wins are vacated because you were cheating, your coaching should take a hit too.
Everyone was cheating, the NCAA just turned a blind eye to certain programs and went out of its way to shield some coaches.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 11:26 am to JamalMurry27
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of course we wont ever know.pitino did it at UK, UL, and now St johns so thats impressive but thats still far better starting points than pearl has had
A UK reeling from probation.
ETA: you’re also leaving out a final four run at Providence.
This post was edited on 2/16/25 at 11:29 am
Posted on 2/16/25 at 11:31 am to RollTide4Ever
quote:Thats why i said "one of the best". that number could be 10. i didnt say the best. that being said pearl doesnt have Kareem, bill walton, wilt chamberlin,,,,if the two teams are even and pearl is one of the coaches i do not believe there are many college coaches who can out coach him. he just knows basketball. i miss his pressing teams. the full court press doesnt really exist like it used to, the hardcore full court traps
Ucla was a powerhouse before wooden? Duke was decent but K elevated them. Calhoun is a GOAT, same with Lute Olson.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 11:42 am to JamalMurry27
He's clearly a program builder but if he can't get any of them to the promised land I don't know how you put him top tier.
He may get there, but the coaching part is how you win titles.
He may get there, but the coaching part is how you win titles.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 12:37 pm to JamalMurry27
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and very few have coached cellar dwellars like UT and AU to number 1 in the country several times, perenial tourney runs and overall fielding a top team in the sec. tennessee was trash before he got there they arent the vols now that Barnes has
Far be it from me to take up for Tennessee but from a historical perspective the Tennessee and Auburn basketball programs aren't remotely on the same level.
The Auburn basketball program prior to Pearl arriving ranked no better than 12th or 13th historically among current SEC members.
Tennessee basketball is practically dead even with Alabama basketball accomplishment wise with both programs along with LSU basically tied for 6th best SEC program historically behind Kentucky, Arkansas, Texas, Florida, and Oklahoma.
Auburn basketball has been elite and a top 2 or 3 SEC program and probably a Top 15 program nationally since 2018 under Pearl but the program was no better than the 3rd or 4th WORST SEC basketball program historically up until 2018.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 12:44 pm to JamalMurry27
I like how Jeff Goodman put it last night. He said when he first got to know Bruce when he was at UT Bruce relied heavily on embracing the underdog role and motivating his teams to just play harder than other teams. He won a lot of games doing that, but over time (and especially since he's been at Auburn) Bruce has become a great Xs and Os coach, too. He used to get flack for not being the best in-game coach, or not being a great play caller type, but that's not the case anymore. Pretty much all coaches who plan to play Auburn talk about how good Bruce and his teams run their stuff. That part of his coaching is finally getting the attention it deserves.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 12:49 pm to BluegrassBelle
quote:Doesn't take that to get a statue in Auburn.
I don’t think he’s the best all-time though.
But I agree.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 2:13 pm to JamalMurry27
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its not just that he turned bad programs into good teams....making the tournament every year and vols and auburn solid job. 5 seeds, 9 seeds, occassional 2 or 3 seed. he has made both programs number 1 in the nation multiple times and had several heartbreaks at UT where a couple bounces the other way an he for sure reaches a final 4. UT mich st comes to mind. auburn...if UVA misses a FT or backcourt is called he probably has a title.....so he turned these schools into like the best teams in the nation. wooden, K, and others dont have that on the resume. of course we wont ever know.pitino did it at UK, UL, and now St johns so thats impressive but thats still far better starting points than pearl has had
Pearl got UT to a high level in the regular season, but with all there regular season strength, his tourney record sucked. Early outs right and left.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 2:27 pm to jonnyanony
quote:I’d put mark few and Brad Stevens in the top tier. I think a championship can be confirmation, but not an absolute requirement. He did win a DII championship already.
He's clearly a program builder but if he can't get any of them to the promised land I don't know how you put him top tier.
Posted on 2/16/25 at 3:06 pm to JamalMurry27
A coach that has made a single final four and never won it all is one of the best in history?
LOL
LOL
Posted on 2/16/25 at 3:11 pm to Pimphand
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A coach that has made a single final four
He has made a final four.
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