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re: Brian Billick: There's an overwhelming chance Cam Newton fails in the NFL
Posted on 4/22/11 at 7:50 am to beatbammer
Posted on 4/22/11 at 7:50 am to beatbammer
Cam is going to be the second coming of Jamarcus Russell
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Posted on 4/22/11 at 7:52 am to tiger perry
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Cam is going to be the second coming of Jamarcus Russell
Well there's a new take on Cam nobody has ever heard before.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 7:59 am to uabtodd
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uabtodd
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10% of 280 < a couple dozen?
never knew a former football coaches dozen=15
This is the part of the article you're going to pick apart??
Posted on 4/22/11 at 8:02 am to tiger perry
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Cam is going to be the second coming of Jamarcus Russell
I doubt this but to get any of these aubbies to see that Cam is fake as they come (fake nice, fake genuine etc) is not going to happen. If Vegas had a line on this the odds would favor fail and for some of the reasons Billick says. Billick now makes a living doing this so I don't know why he would be so extreme if there wasn't some type of consensus out there regarding part of his opinion
Continue circling the wagons barners
Posted on 4/22/11 at 8:07 am to dextermccluskey
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"36".....simple.
Cant wait to see him audible
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“I think his eagerness to learn and prove that he can adapt to a pro style on offense. He showed very good retention to me in the meetings and the material that we covered.
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Yeah, it’s not his fault that they don’t huddle. This is a no-huddle offense,” Gruden said. “Cam Newton will learn quickly what to call formations, what to call shifts, what to call motions. That is something that I learned. What he’s got to get ready for right away is learning the terminology and how to spit these plays out clearly, quickly, and get the team up to the line of scrimmage where he has time to deal.”
What Sam Bradford said last year was just a number and a word, so not that much more. and no I am not comparing bradford and newton, just the style of offense
This post was edited on 4/22/11 at 9:30 am
Posted on 4/22/11 at 8:47 am to NYCAuburn
Cam has proven he has the ability to adapt. He had what, three offensive systems to learn in three years with three different coaches?
He has personality & character issues that rub some folks the wrong way - but he's a good athlete that's smart and can learn what he needs to learn to be successful. It's been said before that Cecil has been the driving force behind Cam his whole life - I don't think Cecil will let him just give up and ruin his career now that they've made it to the Big Time.
Just my $.02 -
He has personality & character issues that rub some folks the wrong way - but he's a good athlete that's smart and can learn what he needs to learn to be successful. It's been said before that Cecil has been the driving force behind Cam his whole life - I don't think Cecil will let him just give up and ruin his career now that they've made it to the Big Time.
Just my $.02 -
This post was edited on 4/22/11 at 8:48 am
Posted on 4/22/11 at 9:26 am to RT1941
I look for Cam to struggle in the nfl, I may be wrong, in fact I hope I am, but the shiny stuff will only get you so far, there has to be some substance.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 9:30 am to Bench McElroy
I haven't read anything in this thread but the title, so sorry if my comment is off topic.
I think Cam will struggle if he has to be the starter on day 1. If he is given time to develop and has to fight for his playing time, he has a chance to be successful. I think his drive to succeed will help him put in the work and time necessary for him to succeed. However, if he is the de facto starter from day 1, he may or may not do the hard work he needs to do.
I think Cam will struggle if he has to be the starter on day 1. If he is given time to develop and has to fight for his playing time, he has a chance to be successful. I think his drive to succeed will help him put in the work and time necessary for him to succeed. However, if he is the de facto starter from day 1, he may or may not do the hard work he needs to do.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 9:43 am to uabtodd
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10% of 280 < a couple dozen?
never knew a former football coaches dozen=15
Making his blanket statement like that it is obvious he hasn't watched much film or doesn't know what he's talking about from a throwing standpoint.
His concerns with all of the other stuff are valid, I disagree with him but you can raise questions about things surrounding Cam. That said some teams have liked the way Newton handled himself and won with everything going on around him.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 9:47 am to RT1941
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but he's a good athlete that's smart and can learn what he needs to learn to be successful
That describes Leaf, Vince Young, JaMarcus, and Michael Vick (prior to his prison sentence), talented athletes who haven't done or didn't do the work needed to maximize their abilities. And is the exact opposite of Tim Tebow, who may or may not be super-talented but will bust his arse to make the most of what he does have.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 9:51 am to Quidam65
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but he's a good athlete that's smart and can learn what he needs to learn to be successful
That describes Leaf, Vince Young, JaMarcus, and Michael Vick (prior to his prison sentence), talented athletes who haven't done or didn't do the work needed to maximize their abilities. And is the exact opposite of Tim Tebow, who may or may not be super-talented but will bust his arse to make the most of what he does have.
disqualifies Jamarcus.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 9:58 am to Bench McElroy
I would venture to say that there is an overwhelming chance that any Rookie fails in the NFL.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 9:58 am to GarmischTiger
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disqualifies Jamarcus
Its hard to be a starting QB at an elite-level program without having some working neurons that can understand football Xs and Os.
The trap is that many athletes (not just football) think talent is all that is needed to be successful at the next level (HS to College, College to Pros), only to find that everyone else is just as good if not better, or at least is willing to bust theirs to beat yours.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 10:02 am to dextermccluskey
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Cant wait to see him audible
Oklahoma uses the same type of offensive system that Auburn uses, and it didn't take Sam Bradford long at all to adapt.
And many NFL QBs don't audible. Here's what NFL OC Cam Cameron said last year: "Audibling is overrated. It really is. I mean, it's good to talk about, and I could sit here and let you guys think we do all this audibling and how clever we are and how tricky we are and all that stuff."
My personal opinion is that Cam Newton won't succeed because he doesn't throw accurately enough. Frankly, I don't expect any of the top QBs this year (Newton, Gabbert, Locker, Mallet) to have success in the NFL. Just my opinion.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 10:07 am to fb2000
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Oklahoma uses the same type of offensive system that Auburn uses, and it didn't take Sam Bradford long at all to adapt.
And many NFL QBs don't audible. Here's what NFL OC Cam Cameron said last year: "Audibling is overrated. It really is. I mean, it's good to talk about, and I could sit here and let you guys think we do all this audibling and how clever we are and how tricky we are and all that stuff."
My personal opinion is that Cam Newton won't succeed because he doesn't throw accurately enough. Frankly, I don't expect any of the top QBs this year (Newton, Gabbert, Locker, Mallet) to have success in the NFL. Just my opinion.
If you go to the MSB, I have a topic going about a website that crunched all the numbers about QBs from this year's draft and saw only one QB with the potential to be a franchise QB. That QB is Ricky Stanzi and his numbers last season were eerily similar to Tom Brady's senior season at Michigan. They were virtually identical.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 10:11 am to fb2000
So let me get this straight aubbie's. We bash gruden for being a former head coach because him not being able to coach QB's and you all would come back with he has a Superbowl ring as a head coach so he must know his stuff.
Now, a former coach is bashing cam and you're saying that's he is a former coach because he doesn't know anything about QB's. But this guy has a SB ring as well. So which is it? Is Gruden wrong or Billick right?
Now, a former coach is bashing cam and you're saying that's he is a former coach because he doesn't know anything about QB's. But this guy has a SB ring as well. So which is it? Is Gruden wrong or Billick right?
Posted on 4/22/11 at 10:19 am to Marty McFrat
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So which is it? Is Gruden wrong or Billick right?
Umm, your question is wrong. it is not one or the other
Posted on 4/22/11 at 10:22 am to NYCAuburn
Well considering the overwhelming majority of players fail in the NFL........I'd say Billick is really going out on a limb for this one
Posted on 4/22/11 at 10:23 am to GarmischTiger
quote:Dilfer was their Matt Flynn.
Are you saying Dilfer led the Ravens to the Superbowl?
Just don't lose it for us, bruh.
Posted on 4/22/11 at 10:24 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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Well considering the overwhelming majority of players fail in the NFL........I'd say Billick is really going out on a limb for this one
This^^^, and the stat for QB's is even higher. Considering you only have one starter or guy that plays the entire game, as compared to every other position
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