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re: Bowl Games Mean Nothing Now
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:31 am to JohnnyU
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:31 am to JohnnyU
I agree to an extent but the BCS by virtue of basically being a computer picking the top 2 teams manufactured a lot of controversy and I think it was actually good for the sport for a while. If you weren’t top 2, chances are you felt jilted and were likely to play another team that felt jilted and so you had these BCS bowls with teams like USC in 2003 or Boise State in 2007 who had something to prove.
Under the CFP the debate between 4 and 5 hasn’t always been that compelling and you’re starting to see 5-10 begin to just accept that they were good but not great before the bowls even begin which is leading to disinterest from players of the more highly ranked schools (the lower ranked teams like UVA or Texas are still going to show up and play because it’s the best opportunity they’ve got)
Under the CFP the debate between 4 and 5 hasn’t always been that compelling and you’re starting to see 5-10 begin to just accept that they were good but not great before the bowls even begin which is leading to disinterest from players of the more highly ranked schools (the lower ranked teams like UVA or Texas are still going to show up and play because it’s the best opportunity they’ve got)
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Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:32 am to GaryGator
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Not when half your starters quit on their coach and teammates, like Georgia.
Watching the Sugar Bowl last night I got the impression that the game meant a lot to the UGA coaching staff for that very reason. Winning without your best players is a testament to good coaching. Congrats to Kirby and his staff on that account.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:32 am to BhamTigah
You are absolutely correct. I might add that for teams that don’t compete regularly for the top spots in rankings or in the CFP, bowls tend to be a big deal to those teams and their fans. Ole Miss fans were ecstatic to have been in the Sugar Bowl a few years ago. You can bet the Cotton meant something to Memphis, and Virginia was thrilled to be in the Orange. Even other non P5 teams are happy to be in any bowl at all. But overall, interest in the bowls that don’t have a national championship implication has never been all that great except to the teams playing and their fans. There are some exceptions from time to time.
This post was edited on 1/2/20 at 7:34 am
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:34 am to AlaCowboy
Saban was right, used to be a big deal to go to the Rose Bowl or the Sugar Bowl and now all anyone cares about is the playoff
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:44 am to AlaCowboy
Amen
Posted on 1/2/20 at 7:55 am to TigerTalker16
They are just a money grab and for entertainment purposes only. Nobody cares who won the rose bowl and sugar bowl this season and probably won't remember anything about it in 3 months.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:10 am to burke985
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Nobody cares who won the rose bowl and sugar bowl this season and probably won't remember anything about it in 3 months.
This was my point pregame. It’s nice to go out on a win and I learned a lot about where this team is headed last night but anything other than a CFP victory is really inconsequential at this point
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:13 am to roadGator
They are inspiri g to players and coaches . Important for the next years team
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:23 am to burke985
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. Nobody cares who won the rose bowl and sugar bowl this season and probably won't remember anything about it in 3 months.
True, but people on this board will remember the outback bowl for a while. Bowls are much more memorable when you lose.
Hell, no one outside of LSU fans remember that we finally shut UCF up, but everyone remembers Auburn losing to them the year before.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:28 am to AlaCowboy
The playoff has ruined the bowl games.. their is no doubt about it. The teams that were close to the playoff usually play a little down. The teams outside the playoff play up a bit.
The playoff matchups are a little better than the bowl system
This year the Rose bowl would have been Ohio State and Oregon. Orange Clemson and Oklahoma. Sugar LSU and Baylor. Good games I guess. Not really decisive regarding a national title.
The situation is probably the best that can be made of a bad situation. Going to eight teams would not make it any better.
The playoff matchups are a little better than the bowl system
This year the Rose bowl would have been Ohio State and Oregon. Orange Clemson and Oklahoma. Sugar LSU and Baylor. Good games I guess. Not really decisive regarding a national title.
The situation is probably the best that can be made of a bad situation. Going to eight teams would not make it any better.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:31 am to OleManDixon
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Why did most of them matter before?
Well in the days of yore, before the advent of the Bowl Coalition/Alliance/Championship Series, the champion of college football was voted upon by the media and coaches. That means New Years Day could be very interesting as multiple bowl games could contain your eventual national champion.
Also...as has been noted, winning your conference and getting to the Sugar Bowl or the Rose Bowl was seen as more of an accomplishment than winning the national championship. Being voted the national champion of college football was simply the cherry on top.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:45 am to RollTide1987
I’ll tell you what’s really sad, and that’s the low turnout for the Sugar Bowl of all things.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:53 am to AlaCowboy
It really has ruined bowl games
Especially for upper echelon teams of college football.
It’s a playoff or bust mentality.
Especially for upper echelon teams of college football.
It’s a playoff or bust mentality.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 8:56 am to AlaCowboy
I do agree that the incessant focus on the top few teams is not good for the game. I listen to college football talk on XM 84 and most discussion is focused on the playoff teams.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:04 am to Mike da Tigah
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I’ll tell you what’s really sad, and that’s the low turnout for the Sugar Bowl of all things.
LSU Recent Fiesta Bowl: 57K total attendance in a 75k seat stadium (unclear how many were LSU)
UGA Sugar Bowl: 55K total out of 79K capacity (unclear how many were UGA fans)
No one travels well for these.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:09 am to Dawgfanman
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LSU Recent Fiesta Bowl: 57K total attendance in a 75k seat stadium (unclear how many were LSU) UGA Sugar Bowl: 55K total out of 79K capacity (unclear how many were UGA fans) No one travels well for these.
I wasn’t laying that at UGA’s feet, but rather bowl games in general these days. Bowl games were enormous when I was a kid. Today, they’re not even remotely the same importance as they once were. The fact that it translates to major bowls like the Fiesta, and Sugar especially is just telling.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:11 am to Mike da Tigah
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I wasn’t laying that at UGA’s feet, but rather bowl games in general these days. Bowl games were enormous when I was a kid. Today, they’re not even remotely the same importance as they once were. The fact that it translates to major bowls like the Fiesta, and Sugar especially is just telling.
A midweek trip to Nola, even with the cheap tickets, would’ve cost 2k or more for my family of 4. Just not worth the money.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:14 am to bad93ex
They never mattered.
I hope for an 8 team playoff soon to ruin this exhibition charade once and for all.
Bowls are the NIT of college football - if you can't enjoy them for what they are: (1) extra practice for your team, (2) and opportunity to take a little vacation somewhere new, and/or (3) watch your team one more time against an uncommon opponent before an 8-month drought, than I don't know what to tell you.
I hope for an 8 team playoff soon to ruin this exhibition charade once and for all.
Bowls are the NIT of college football - if you can't enjoy them for what they are: (1) extra practice for your team, (2) and opportunity to take a little vacation somewhere new, and/or (3) watch your team one more time against an uncommon opponent before an 8-month drought, than I don't know what to tell you.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:25 am to mhc4tigers
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The playoff has ruined the bowl games
The playoff didn't ruin the bowl games, the proliferation of bowl games ruined the bowl games. If there were only 5-10 bowl games, people would care a whole lot more. As it is now, bowl games are basically lopsided OOC matchups that are just as boring as regular season lopsided OOC matchups.
UGA playing Baylor in the Sugar Bowl? Who in the ever loving frick could care one bit about that game?
The fact is that the fans that care the most about bowl games are the fans of teams in the CFP, and the fans of teams who haven't been eligible for a bowl game for a while.
Posted on 1/2/20 at 9:29 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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the proliferation of bowl games ruined the bowl games
This guy gets it.
Bowls were once a place where college football's most elite teams would battle each other on a neutral field for bragging rights and momentum going into the next season. In 1979, there were 15 bowl games. 40 years later, there are 40 of them.
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