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Posted on 8/3/20 at 6:57 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Posted on 8/3/20 at 6:57 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
If these 85 at each school don’t want to be involved , nobody is forcing them into the system . There are others who will gladly take their place and generate revenue 
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Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:03 pm to GBJs
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You have more than reading comprehension difficulty, you simply have difficulty. There are top 100 employers and fortune 500 companies using internship positions every damn day.
And its proven to help persons be better equipped to handle many jobs and be more productive in them.
Stop using Corp America examples because if P5 Sports were set up like Corp America the Revenue Athletes would've been paid a long time ago and the welfare Sports would've been given their pink slips a long time ago
College Athletes aren't interns, you assholes pulled that our of thin air to justify not giving them larger Stipends
Also the 70 P5 Colleges gross $5 billion yearly from CFB, take 70 Corporations and add up all the interns they have and they don't come close to generating $5 Billion Dollars yearly, $6 Billion if you include MBB, so you comparing them to the interns in Corp America is just more bullshite
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:04 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
Maybe stop lumping all 70 P5 schools together. They’re not all created equally nor do they all have comparable financial portfolios
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:06 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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players are clearly at the center of this entertainment
The sport is the center. That is the point you are missing. The athlete is the arms race towards competitiveness.
I'd rather see the athlete dialed back in terms of skill than further entitle an already privileged group.
Setting aside monies to be collected upon graduation or career ending injury would be a fair incentive and keep the college in college athletics.
White knighting for a group already receiving breaks across the board for entry into and support throughout school is not what I am about. Account for their paractice hours and provide a stipend equal to the highest paid student worker on campus if you will, but they are not worth the money in question.
It would ruin the system. If the demand was there, we'd have a developmental league. But, it is not.. so, who really needs who? I am certain CFB will/would survive without them.
As, again, the sport is the attractant. Not the athlete. As I have moved around the country over the years, we adopted whatever local HS team was nearby as a family just to catch HS football. Talent wasn't always great, but the fans were there.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:14 pm to TheSandman
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How dare the players be concerned with their own health and well-being
Everyone’s gotta go to work.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:14 pm to Che Boludo
Good post 
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:17 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Hard to claim the purity of Amateurism when a small group has the burden to subsidize everyone else
Let everyone pay their own freight and it'll silence me
Hot damn I agree with you on something! Only concern is you have to find a way to provide for Title IX. That's currently a federal thing and I can't honestly consider it a bad thing.
On top of that you'll be silenced. Can't be bad.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:23 pm to GBJs
Oh the players will go play somewhere else and screw wazzu and any program who thinks likewise. You really think players are going to cave.But for that coach to do what he did, there is no way I want my kid playing for him or any fanbase who thinks likewise. He lost about a third of his recruits. More power to you Wazzu.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:27 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
So how are going to deal with title IX.
Everything has to be equal.... so if you give the 85 scholarships only the money you have to give 85 women scholarships and pay them the same.
If you only pay the scholarship players, good luck having walk on’s..
See the conference payouts, come in the form of a total payout for all sports, now I guess you get them to give you an audit , so to cut your non revenue generating sports.. however, that huge payout all the schools got thus past year will go down; because you want have an SEC or any conference network. You don’t need one for only 14 weeks. You’ll have no programming for the rest of the year. ESPN ain’t paying for that.
See it’s easy to just say the football team brings in 50M , give the players half. But that’s not where it stops, as everyone understands, but you!
The best option it to give all college athletes the Name and Likeness; and let the market figure it out.
That way Star like Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence can do sponsorships if offered and your the pitcher on your softball team can do camps back home and make what she can while her name is popular.
You can’t just pay the football players because you can’t afford to pay all the athletes; and based on title IX. You don’t have a choice!
Everything has to be equal.... so if you give the 85 scholarships only the money you have to give 85 women scholarships and pay them the same.
If you only pay the scholarship players, good luck having walk on’s..
See the conference payouts, come in the form of a total payout for all sports, now I guess you get them to give you an audit , so to cut your non revenue generating sports.. however, that huge payout all the schools got thus past year will go down; because you want have an SEC or any conference network. You don’t need one for only 14 weeks. You’ll have no programming for the rest of the year. ESPN ain’t paying for that.
See it’s easy to just say the football team brings in 50M , give the players half. But that’s not where it stops, as everyone understands, but you!
The best option it to give all college athletes the Name and Likeness; and let the market figure it out.
That way Star like Justin Fields and Trevor Lawrence can do sponsorships if offered and your the pitcher on your softball team can do camps back home and make what she can while her name is popular.
You can’t just pay the football players because you can’t afford to pay all the athletes; and based on title IX. You don’t have a choice!
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:32 pm to Bama _Brotha
The kid is going to cave. Do you really think he’s going to go to another school and give the same demands. No he won’t. So he will go to another school. Play ball. With a a scholarship. Just like he would have before. Without all the nonsense
Posted on 8/3/20 at 7:49 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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Stop using Corp America examples because if P5 Sports were set up like Corp America the Revenue Athletes would've been paid a long time ago and the welfare Sports would've been given their pink slips a long time ago
College Athletes aren't interns, you assholes pulled that our of thin air to justify not giving them larger Stipends
Also the 70 P5 Colleges gross $5 billion yearly from CFB, take 70 Corporations and add up all the interns they have and they don't come close to generating $5 Billion Dollars yearly, $6 Billion if you include MBB, so you comparing them to the interns in Corp America is just more bullshite
That's 100% correct. And it's the athletes wanting the change. If yer gonna change. let's see some fuggin CAPITALISM BABY!!
Posted on 8/3/20 at 9:19 pm to magildachunks
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Both are unethical.
Why are you against these kids getting paid for their services?
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magildachunks
Student Athletes competing in AMATEUR sports.
Optional
Considered an honor in the past
Getting an education
Sure big money has taken over college sports but most of the money does go to offset lower tier sports, improve the facilities and back to education and academics.
The coaching salaries are getting out of hand agreed but opening the box will only mean the championships will only go to the wealthier schools.
Posted on 8/3/20 at 10:39 pm to TheSandman
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Posted by TheSandman
Please don’t be an LSU fan, Please don’t be an LSU fan, Please don’t be an LSU fan
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:02 pm to lsufball19
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Maybe stop lumping all 70 P5 schools together. They’re not all created equally nor do they all have comparable financial portfolios
Whether you like it or not those 70 Colleges combined gross $5 billion yearly from CFB and another $1 Billion from MBB, $6 Billion total each year
I never hinted they were equal, but with that kind of money floating around, there should be enough to give the Revenue Generators larger stipends
It really isn't hard, but untalented, jealous, envious, out dated, narrow minded people make it seem like paying the Players is akin to a space journey to Mars
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:06 pm to LCTFAN
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Sure big money has taken over college sports but most of the money does go to offset lower tier sports, improve the facilities and back to education and academics
Please explain why it is OK for these "lower tier sports" to live the Life of Riley and get entitled to perpetual WELFARE where the burden id on another group of Athletes to fund their Athletic existence while they are in College?
Tell us what is so special about these "lower tier sports"?
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:13 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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So how are going to deal with title IX.
Everything has to be equal
If everything has to be equal, please explain why there are no HCs of any Women's Sports that make $9million per yr like Saban & Dabo do, Title-IX also covers the Coaches and Athl Dept employees also
So explain why NO EQUALITY there
Title-IX never said that the money has to be exactly the same or that all Athletes have to be treated exactly the same, Title-IX misdirection is yet another BS stunt to keep the Revenue Athletes from getting larger Stipends, i. e. a more fair distribution of the windfall created from the hard work of FB & MBB
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:17 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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See it’s easy to just say the football team brings in 50M , give the players half. But that’s not where it stops, as everyone understands, but you
I never suggested that
My number was $5 to 6 million which would be broken down into 100 --- $50K to $60K Stipends for FB & MBB, which would be in addition bro their full scholly
Just because the Pac12 Athletes overshot their initial ask by way too much money, that doesn't mean they are 100% wrong
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:21 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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The best option it to give all college athletes the Name and Likeness; and let the market figure it out.
My suggestion from Months ago was to give the Players NIL, AND larger Stipends, AND unpunished transfers after 2 yrs in the Program
If you can lose a DC or an OC to a Conference Rival in your own Division then you can lose a Soph to the same Team
Posted on 8/3/20 at 11:22 pm to 3rddownonthe8
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You can’t just pay the football players because you can’t afford to pay all the athletes; and based on title IX. You don’t have a choice!
This just isn't true
Posted on 8/4/20 at 2:56 am to SidewalkTiger
It can't be that schools compete with NFL teams for coaches but don't pay millionaire salaries. In fact there isn't one head coach in the SEC who receives less than 3 mil a year with the highest receiving 9.1/8.7 each. The only coaches who don't make bank aren't power 5. Wash st. Hc makes 3mmm/year.
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