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Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:15 pm to
Posted by GusAU
Member since Mar 2014
3644 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:15 pm to
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I guarantee you that Saban and Dabo would be successful in whatever situation they're put in

Even this 1987 bammer hating Dyehard Auburn grad whose Dad played on Auburn's 1957 National Championship team agrees with this statement 1000%.

Yes, I intended 1000%, not 100%
Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27291 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:24 pm to
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I guarantee you that Saban and Dabo would be successful in whatever situation they're put in. There's no doubt that strong recruiting makes a HC's job easier, but what a coach does with a talented player/team is the real difference maker


Interesting. So why did Saban continually push the rules and go into gray areas when it came to over signing and the concept of "support" staff? Why did he need all these edges if he such a superior
coach and developer of talent?
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:31 pm to
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If no one gets the top 300 players, those coaches would still get the best remaining players and there wouldn’t be a noticeable difference. Not sure why you’re pulling 1600 players because 1600 players aren’t getting paid to play minor league football, but the same logic would apply regardless.

Assuming that the P5 , the Top65 colleges get the best HS Recruits, then 65 schools X 25 incoming Recruits = 1,625 of the Top HS Players end up at P5 colleges

Recruiting outside that Top1600 is a recipe for failure if you are P5 HC

If a developmental League was formed and had 15 Teams in different Regions of the Country, lets say 15 Dev Teams X 60 players on each Roster = 900, that 900 might not come out of the same HS Recruiting class, but since the NFL takes players after 3 yrs out of HS, a developmental league could easily start to siphon talent off the top of each yearly Recruiting class

There is a difference between a league made up of guys CUT from NFL Rosters trying to compete for TV dollars outside the traditional FB Season and the most elite HS players taking talent and eventually TV money away from CFB as time passes

None of the other Dev Leagues are designed to directly compete for college sports TV dollars, a new Dev League for FB just might do that

I wonder what Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is gonna do with the XFL , I just read where he just bought that League, doesn't mean he's gonna try to pay HS players so you slippery slope over-reactors can just calm down
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64470 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:48 pm to
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Assuming that the P5 , the Top65 colleges get the best HS Recruits, then 65 schools X 25 incoming Recruits = 1,625 of the Top HS Players end up at P5 colleges


So the P5 is going to lose all their players if they don't start paying them? What fantasy world do you live in?

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I wonder what Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson is gonna do with the XFL

watch it fail like every other non-NFL professional football league has
This post was edited on 8/5/20 at 11:50 pm
Posted by The Vin Man
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2018
179 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:50 pm to
Trust me. I'm not a fan of either school but they're still great coaches.
Posted by The Vin Man
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2018
179 posts
Posted on 8/5/20 at 11:57 pm to
If it's not against the rules then why not do it. Saban does what it takes to win championships. Obviously Kirby didn't absorb as much as he should've during their time together.
Posted by The Vin Man
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2018
179 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 12:09 am to
If I understand you correct you are saying the traditionally strong college teams will get an equal amount of top 300 recruits as the lower tiered schools?
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52309 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 6:32 am to
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There is a difference between a league made up of guys CUT from NFL Rosters trying to compete for TV dollars outside the traditional FB Season and the most elite HS players taking talent and eventually TV money away from CFB as time passes


The major difference being that elite HS kids cant compete with guys cut from NFL rosters.

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None of the other Dev Leagues are designed to directly compete for college sports TV dollars, a new Dev League for FB just might do that


So you're saying a league entirely of what would otherwise be college kids.

No one is going to shell out millions and millions of dollars to basically copy college football except in a regional rather than university format.

They'd take a loss for years while trying to see if it'd work and there's no reason for an independent league to do that just to develop players who will leave for the NFL.

None of that makes any kind of business sense whatsoever, you're living in the land of make believe.

This post was edited on 8/6/20 at 6:35 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25550 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 7:19 am to
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None of the other Dev Leagues are designed to directly compete for college sports TV dollars, a new Dev League for FB just might do that


God you are so lame.

If you have this competitive league of high school talent that is going to knock off P5 football as we know it, why isnt the Under Armor and Army All American game a sell out and tv advertising for the game competing with MLB/NCAA/NBA for cost per commercial?

They have the best talent collected on the field. Where are the fans in the stands?
Are the small fans watching on TV tuning in because of the high school talent? Or are they hoping to see their university's upcoming freshmen do something good in the game?

You really know nothing about nothing. I'd say that GT scammed you. You didnt get your money's worth.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52309 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 7:50 am to
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I'd say that GT scammed you. You didnt get your money's worth.


In all fairness to Georgia Tech, some folks are a lost cause.

You can lead a mule to water but you can't make him drink.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 6:24 pm to
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So the P5 is going to lose all their players if they don't start paying them? What fantasy world do you live in

Show me where I have ever said "all" in the same context you used it above?
Posted by MeatPants
Member since Nov 2015
8853 posts
Posted on 8/6/20 at 7:09 pm to
There is a huge major difference about a developmental league. So what if it has some of the better high school talent

Most people watch sports because they are invested in ho wins or loses. A developmental league is there to develop players. They really don’t care who wins or loses. The public doesn’t care who wins or loses. There really is no fan base for minor league sports

People care about big ten football. You are not going to all of a sudden or ever become a die hard minor league fan because their really is no competition or championship that anyone cares for

Explain to me I. What world will the d league ever overtake the the NCAA tournament in interest. No one is going to care about a division championship in a developmental minor league
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