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re: Bama's 2020 national title...let's clear the air.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 7:03 pm to Che Boludo
Posted on 8/1/26 at 7:03 pm to Che Boludo
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The fans in the stands thing is a silly argument, as well. It essentially created a more neutral field for each game.
An incredible argument. Claiming home field advantage in a conference like the SEC is something that isn’t that big of a deal lmao. Because all those strange games in Jordan Hare when Bama had a clearly superior team but somehow lost had zero to do with home field advantage. Incredible.
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Posted on 8/1/26 at 7:13 pm to LowCountryBuckeye
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hio State was missing 2NFL draftees on DL, one on Off line, countless db backups and LBs, their kicker and Trey Simon got hurt the first play.A full strength OSU vs a full strength Bama any other year would have been a great game and a classic for the ages.
OSU won a national title with a 3rd string QB. It’s called depth. It’s a part of the game. OSU doesn’t get a pass because it’s your team. If anything, they are one of a handful of schools who have the pedigree to have the depth to win championships despite injuries. No one else gets to use this excuse when their team sustains injuries. Your team doesn’t get a magic pass.
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Ohio State was clearly one of the best two teams despite how many games they played.
It actually wasn’t clear bc you played 6 regular season games. The only thing clear was that OSU had the least impressive resume of any national championship participant in the history of the sport.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:14 pm to FireDanMullen
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An incredible argument. Claiming home field advantage in a conference like the SEC is something that isn’t that big of a deal lmao. Because all those strange games in Jordan Hare when Bama had a clearly superior team but somehow lost had zero to do with home field advantage. Incredible.
I'll ask you the same question as the other guy. Which road game did Alabama play that you think the home field would have mattered.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:17 pm to Boom33
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I'll ask you the same question as the other guy. Which road game did Alabama play that you think the home field would have mattered.
It could have mattered in any of them, it may not have mattered at all. It may have changed everything.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:20 pm to Darindawg
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They played an all-SEC schedule
There were 5 teams with records above .500 and that's counting bama. The majority of the SEC sucked that season so I wouldn't just brag on that gauntlet all SEC schedule.
Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:21 pm to SouthernInsanity
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here were 5 teams with records above .500 and that's counting bama.
Don't conference records always equal to .500 every year?
Posted on 8/1/26 at 10:31 pm to FireDanMullen
In light of how firing Dan Mullen worked out for Florida, it is unfortunate you chose the username FireDanMullen.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:46 pm to captdalton
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In light of how firing Dan Mullen worked out for Florida, it is unfortunate you chose the username FireDanMullen.
My postions rape your opinions so hard you have to default to critiquing my username instead of being able to defend yourself. You’re cooked. Bring me another cuck to destroy.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 8:49 pm to Boom33
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I'll ask you the same question as the other guy. Which road game did Alabama play that you think the home field would have mattered.
I just said naming 2020 Bama as the GOAT when they didn’t play a true road game is objectively ridiculous. I named all the reasons it’s objectively insane to declare 2020 Bama one of the best teams of all time.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 9:40 pm to FireDanMullen
This thread has nothing to do with them being the greatest ever. You are having a very long winded conversation, mainly with yourself, about a completely different subject than what we are discussing.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 9:59 pm to FireDanMullen
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An incredible argument. Claiming home field advantage in a conference like the SEC is something that isn’t that big of a deal lmao. Because all those strange games in Jordan Hare when Bama had a clearly superior team but somehow lost had zero to do with home field advantage. Incredible.
Your argument would have air to breathe if Alabama actually played Auburn in Auburn that year but alas they didn’t. They played in Tuscaloosa. They smoked LSU in Tiger Stadium like they always do, that wouldn’t have changed.
Do some homework and do tell me, which road game Bama played in 2020 would’ve been changed by a capacity crowd? I’ll wait
Bama’s toughest opponents were at home, and given the limited crowd it should’ve given those teams an advantage by eveyone else’s argument. But here’s the reality, Alabama skull fricked UGA and Aggy at home with no crowd noise.
So, the 100,000 drunk fans screaming that Alabama “should’ve had to deal with” holds literally no weight.
2020 Alabama was a machine, a machine that could compete with anyone anywhere in any era based on the players on the field. They are one of the greatest teams of all time, anyone that disputes that is a **** hater.
This post was edited on 8/2/26 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:04 pm to SidewalkTiger
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It could have mattered in any of them, it may not have mattered at all. It may have changed everything.
Search your feelings, you know this isn’t true. Tell me, based on those teams, who at capacity would’ve given Bama a game given their crowd. It’s a straw man argument. “Ole Miss could’ve played yall closer, maybe yall have a turnover given the crowd noise!”
And sometimes teams come out tight given their home crowd, maybe Ole Miss played looser given there was no roaring crowd at home.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:12 pm to Darindawg
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So...give me some serious, non-trolling arguments here. What's your problem with that title being...a title?
Jealousy is the only reason they actually have.
Better to just ignore these losers. Their opinion is irrelevant.
Posted on 8/2/26 at 10:14 pm to FireDanMullen
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I just said naming 2020 Bama as the GOAT when they didn’t play a true road game is objectively ridiculous. I named all the reasons it’s objectively insane to declare 2020 Bama one of the best teams of all time.
Seems a weird qualifier to me. You're talking about things off the field as having a major factor in the quality of the teams on the field. And when the closest game was nearly 5 times more than the Vegas homefield advantage you mentioned.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 4:39 am to Darindawg
Rosters changed from week to week.
Players missed practice because of isolation or quarantine precautions.
Home field advantage or handicap was non-existent.
There were opt outs.
Absolutely Bama had load of talents but Saban has said that 2019 was his best team but it hurt to lose Tua with the hip injury.
Sure they put up points on Florida but it wasn't a blow out. Florida hung 46 on Bama's D.
No matter how you view it, it was not a normal year.
FWIW, the title counts but they can't be measured as the greatest team ever.
Players missed practice because of isolation or quarantine precautions.
Home field advantage or handicap was non-existent.
There were opt outs.
Absolutely Bama had load of talents but Saban has said that 2019 was his best team but it hurt to lose Tua with the hip injury.
Sure they put up points on Florida but it wasn't a blow out. Florida hung 46 on Bama's D.
No matter how you view it, it was not a normal year.
FWIW, the title counts but they can't be measured as the greatest team ever.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 7:20 am to JohnnyU
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Rosters changed from week to week.
Players missed practice because of isolation or quarantine precautions.
Home field advantage or handicap was non-existent.
There were opt outs.
Common environment for all and created additional adversity for teams and coaches to overcome, which only adds to the difficulty of the season. Also, there was an analysis done that showed Bama's schedule at the time games were played were least impacted in the country due to the issues of the covid season
quote:I truly beleive Bama wins the NC with a healthy Tua in 2019 or at least it is another Bama vs LSU rematch. Clearly the 2 best teams that year. That said, Saban has repeatedly mentioned that 2020 Bama was the "ultimate" team. Highest praise he as ever given a single season team.
Saban has said that 2019 was his best team but it hurt to lose Tua with the hip injury.
quote:up 35-17 at half, yes, they came out a bit flat in the 3rd and did what they needed in the 4th. Also, Mullen was much more all in on the SEC CG than he was winning the shoe game, as he essentially rested starters and prioritized prep for Bama.
Sure they put up points on Florida but it wasn't a blow out. Florida hung 46 on Bama's D.
quote:no less special. Possibly makes it more special given all of the obstacles a team had to endure to have the level of dominance they had.
No matter how you view it, it was not a normal year.
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the title counts
Yes, yes it does.
quote:They can and they very much are in that conversation.
they can't be measured as the greatest team ever.
I'm so appreciative of the OP, as the air certainly seems clear now.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 8:43 am to JohnnyU
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No matter how you view it, it was not a normal year.
There’s no such thing as a normal year in CFB. The sport changes all the time.
Many people here consider 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami at the very top of the GOAT argument - yet they only played eleven regular season games and a bowl. No conference championship and no playoffs at all. If you’re trying to go undefeated and win a national title, fewer games makes it easier, yeah?
Indiana just played twelve regular season games, a conference championship, two playoff games, and a national title. Maybe we should invalidate GOAT claims from teams outside the expanded playoff era? Or maybe not because of all the super seniors, etc.?
2020 Bama might have had unique circumstances in CFB history - but certainly not easier circumstances than many previous seasons.
Winning a national title without even having to play the best opponent out there due to bowl ties (or having 1-2 mulligans due to fortunate circumstances) is preferable to a lack of crowd noise.
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:20 am to Darindawg
Asterisk remains
Posted on 8/3/26 at 9:59 am to lsusteve1
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Asterisk remains
Seconded. And deep down, Bama fans know it too.
Bama 2019 would've beaten Bama 2020 IMO. That was a great team and aside of UTrans, they gave us the closest game in all of 2019
Posted on 8/3/26 at 10:06 am to lsusteve1
LSU fans enjoyed a season in 2019 like no other they had ever experienced. An offense that was amazingly consistent at putting up points like playing a video game. They all said it was the greatest offense of all time and they averaged 48.4 points per game. They had (and still have) a good argument.
Then Bama did pretty much the same thing the very next year and averaged 48.5 points per game, and did it without having Georgia Southern, Northwestern State, and Utah State on their schedule.
They basically stole their thunder, and did so in the very next season. As if LSU didn't already hate Bama enough.
Which offense was better is hard to say. I think it is pretty even, but Bama had the better OL and LSU probably had the better skilled people in the passing game and Bama had the better running backs, but it is all very arguable.
Then Bama did pretty much the same thing the very next year and averaged 48.5 points per game, and did it without having Georgia Southern, Northwestern State, and Utah State on their schedule.
They basically stole their thunder, and did so in the very next season. As if LSU didn't already hate Bama enough.
Which offense was better is hard to say. I think it is pretty even, but Bama had the better OL and LSU probably had the better skilled people in the passing game and Bama had the better running backs, but it is all very arguable.
This post was edited on 8/3/26 at 10:07 am
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