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re: Bama: 15 losses. How?
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:11 pm to makersmark1
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:11 pm to makersmark1
it hasn't settled in for them yet, but avery johnson is average at best.
Believe me. I'm an LSU fan. I know a loaded roster that's squandered when I see one.
Believe me. I'm an LSU fan. I know a loaded roster that's squandered when I see one.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 1:16 pm to RandySavage
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Well neither Auburn or Alabama are going to do anything memorable in March so I'll take that SEC title and laugh at the team with 15 losses and under .500 in conference play.
Glad Auburn fans have finally come to light on how irrelevant Auburn's win over Alabama in football was last season.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 2:03 pm to Gary Busey
Here's a post from Tidefans that helps explain Bama's 15 losses.
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19 assists on 30 baskets - impressive. Played good D in 2nd half - good coaching adjustment on playing the pick and roll. A brief part of the night 5 true freshmen were on the floor at the same time. They played 34, 33, 29, 19, 7 minutes. Other than Hall and AJ Jr, Jrs who played 25 and 10 mins, Sophs Ingram and Key are the old men on the team. The team played well offensively in the first half despite Sexton playing subpar with 3 pts and multiple TOs.
Another big time win. If it weren't for the 10,000 losses, this would be one of Alabama's most accomplished teams. Of course, the tough OOC schedule and SEC sched makes it more understandable. VT's RPI was worse than Bama's previous 8 opponents (RPI 10, 12, 29, 35, 27, 27, 12, 10) and 13 of the last 14. 12 of Bama's previous 14 opponents' RPI was below 50. Without really knowing, IMO, it would be a very safe bet that is the toughest stretch by far in Alabama program history. No wonder the SOS is 3 in the nation. 13 of Bama last 15 games have been against NCAA tournament teams. Bama is 6-7 in those games - 5 road games, 4 neutral site and 4 home. The 2 misses were MSU and LSU, RPI 62 and 84, not pushovers. Alabama might have 25-27 wins against their typical schedule.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 2:49 pm to tigerbait2010
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it hasn't settled in for them yet, but avery johnson is average at best. Believe me. I'm an LSU fan. I know a loaded roster that's squandered when I see one.
2016 LSU finished with 2 Top 25 RPI wins, 3 Top 50 RPI wins, #95 in the RPI and the #73 SOS. The finished #81 in KenPom. Didn't go to the NCAAT
2018 Alabama currently has 6 Top 25 RPI wins, 8 Top 50 RPI wins, is #36 in the RPI and the #3 SOS. They are currently #48 in KenPom. Currently advanced to the 2nd round of the NCAAT.
We had an up and down year, but LOL at comparing this team to the Johnny Jones disaster of 2016.
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 3/16/18 at 2:51 pm to SummerOfGeorge
I member 2016 LSU.
The headline read:
LSU suffers loss of biblical proportions, 71-38 to A&M
The headline read:
LSU suffers loss of biblical proportions, 71-38 to A&M
Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:49 pm to RandySavage
RandySavage
You're a real cool guy, aren't you?
You're a real cool guy, aren't you?
Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:54 pm to TomRollTideRitter
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Of the other 6 losses, only 1 was a home game.
And that 1 home game was to UCF, who was a tournament team before Tacko Fall got hurt.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 3:56 pm to makersmark1
Auburn lost to them twice. How?
Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:28 pm to WeBleedCrimson
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Auburn lost to them twice. How?
We lost a road game to a hot shooting Petty.
We won a home game.
We lost a neutral site game to a lottery pick having the game of his life and we had lost our best rim protector, mclemore for the season.
AU basketball 2018 is two teams:
1. A really strong team with #24 in lineup
2. A team that can win a home game without #24.
It is what it is.
I miss #24.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 4:37 pm to makersmark1
quote:Yes it is! Personally, I'm happy with Bama's season in the 2nd year of a coach that has never coached college ball. I'm sure you are very pleased with Auburn's season as well.
It is what it is.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:23 pm to makersmark1
quote:Fifteen times they scored fewer points than their opponent. In basketball, the team that has the most points at the end of the game wins. This is also true of most other sports. There are some exceptions.
Bama: 15 losses. How?
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:32 pm to SummerOfGeorge
where did I reference a comparison of those two teams?
I'm just saying Alabama is a very talented team that's wasted by an average coach.
I'm just saying Alabama is a very talented team that's wasted by an average coach.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:39 pm to BamaAlum02
quote:You're right...the only problem with him is that he can't work himself open for the shot as often as they'd like. He's usually good for 2, and occasionally 3 shot opportunities a game...but when he does get a shot, he's about as consistent as anybody we've got.
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As far as I can tell, Petty and Sexton (with Ingram a weak 3rd choice) are the only 2 guys that have ANY decent shooting stroke.
Alex Reese has a nice outside shot.I would put him 3rd on the team.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 5:50 pm to RT1941
I guess this thread is typical, I tried to assess why a talent rich team has had some uneven performances.
I’ve only seen them against AU and UT. They looked great in those games.
I guess all team have ups and downs. I just thought 15 losses was out of the norm for a team that talented.
I’ve only seen them against AU and UT. They looked great in those games.
I guess all team have ups and downs. I just thought 15 losses was out of the norm for a team that talented.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 6:20 pm to makersmark1
If Bruce Pearl was the coach, this team would have won 30 games.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 6:38 pm to makersmark1
Yea, and Bama won that home without Sexton and with an injured Hall who came off of the bench to score 2. So, Bama won the game without its 2 best players.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 7:01 pm to makersmark1
Ehh, 15 losses would be out of the norm if they didn’t have the 4th youngest team playing the 3rd hardest schedule, coach by a HC with only 2yrs of college coaching experience. Avery had a tough task, his coaching was just as inconsistent and up & down as the players execution.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 7:19 pm to makersmark1
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I guess this thread is typical, I tried to assess why a talent rich team has had some uneven performances. I’ve only seen them against AU and UT. They looked great in those games. I guess all team have ups and downs. I just thought 15 losses was out of the norm for a team that talented.
This team is not as talented as most think. Last night it started 3 three stars, 1 four and 1 five. The top 3 players off of the bench were 2 three stars and one four. That's not highly ranked recruits. And Petty the 2nd most highly ranked recruit usually doesn't play like it. It has no true PG, no consistent outside threat and no "garbage man". It has a bunch of very good athletes who can run and jump, giving the illusion of great players, but they are only moderately basketball skilled, especially as jump shooters. They have 2 decent ball handlers but no true PG.
Also, the team is the 4th youngest in the country, the youngest in program history. Last night there was a time when there were 5 true freshmen on the floor at once, two of whom were 3 star recruits and one low 4 star. 4 of the 6 players with at least 19 minutes were true freshmen, two of whom were 3 stars. Youth always begets inconsistent performance, especially when it is not UK/Duke/NC level talent.
The real question is not how did this team lose 15 games, but how has it won 20, reached the SEC semi-finals and 2nd round of the NCAA, against the toughest SEC in decades and #3 SOS in the country? 13 of its last 15 games have been against NCAA tournament teams, only 8 have more quad 1 wins, 7, 29 games vs top 111 rpi, 17 vs top 50. Avery's done a nice job.
Posted on 3/16/18 at 7:41 pm to makersmark1
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I guess this thread is typical, I tried to assess why a talent rich team has had some uneven performances.
I’ve only seen them against AU and UT. They looked great in those games.
I guess all team have ups and downs. I just thought 15 losses was out of the norm for a team that talented.
The long post by tattoo above pretty much lays it all out.
I'd add that Alabama's SEC schedule was a bit thin on easier wins as well. For example, Auburn played the four SEC teams to not make post-season 7 times total (including 4 home games) whereas Bama only played those teams 4 times total with only one of those at home.
No excuse but explanation. Schedule really was extremely tough.
Couple that with being one of the few youngest teams in all Division 1 and it's really not much of a puzzle.
For all the criticism of Johnson and the team, there should be a bit of credit:
Has any team ever won a NCAA tourney game playing five true freshmen together at points when trailing in the second half?
This post was edited on 3/16/18 at 7:58 pm
Posted on 3/16/18 at 7:43 pm to Swm323
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You're a real cool guy, aren't you?
yes
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