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re: Auburn: You ready to pay Saban/Calipari money for a bb coach?

Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by Stidham8
Member since Aug 2018
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:29 pm to
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not because Auburn is a new powerhouse like some seem to believe on here lol


Auburn’s well on its way to a third SEC title in the last 5 seasons. They very well could’ve won the SEC Tournament as a #2 seed in 2020 if the pandemic didn’t cancel it.

This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Nitro Express
Gulf Coast
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:29 pm to
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Can you make one coherent point?


No. No he cannot.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:29 pm to
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You're not wrong. But it's not like the NCAA has dropped the hammer on the other schools that have had the same infractions.

My comment didn't really have much to do with the pending NCAA issues. UL has no stability anywhere within the entire university. From the board, to the president, and the AD. And that instability isn't just caused by turnover. It is a shitshow. The NCAA stuff is just another layer.

I'm not saying it is a sure fire deal breaker, but UL is in a very bad position currently, even outside of athletics.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:33 pm
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:31 pm to
I was born in the 80s and I've seen the following national titles

Duke (5) (3 national titles & 4 Final Fours since 2000)
North Carolina (4) (3 national titles & 6 Final Fours since 2000)
Kentucky (3) (1 national title & 4 Final Fours since 2000)
Kansas (1) (1 national title & 5 Final Fours since 2000)
UCLA (1) (0 national titles & 4 Final Fours since 2000)
Louisville (1) (1 national title & 3 Final Fours since 2000)
Indiana (0) (0 national titles & 1 Final Four since 2000)

The only blue blood that hasn't won a title during a portion of my lifetime that I remember is Indiana. All of them have been to at least 3 or 4 final fours in my lifetime (most of them more than that).

Blue bloods in basketball, on whole, have faired much better than blue bloods in football in the 2000s.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted by TideTurf
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:32 pm to
The real question is. Is Auburn a stepping stone or a destination job?
Then pose the same question about Louisville.
I think he could retire at Auburn and be happy with that,but the guy is a builder he might want another challenge? Who knows.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21274 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:34 pm to
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Kansas (1)


Kansas has had 2 since then. 88 and 2008.
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:35 pm to
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Why would he leave a school he built to the top program in the SEC?


Do you really believe Auburn is the top program in the SEC?? Talk about delusional.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:35 pm to
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What a dumb statement. Just look at the TV ratings. Duke and Kentucky alone make up 7 of the top 10 games watched this year



What were those matchups? TV is so diluted by games today, it is all about matchups and not name recognition. Duke is a top 5 program and UK did play a top 5 program. What were the top 10 games ?
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:37 pm to
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The real question is. Is Auburn a stepping stone or a destination job?


I think it depends on the coach. For a 61 year old who's in his 8th season I would say it's a destination. Now a 30 year old takes over and he has ties to another program (playing or coaching) then maybe it's a stepping stone.

But Louisville isn't KU, UK, UNC, Duke, or UCLA either. They have a much richer history than Auburn (most schools do) but that isn't currently the situation.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:37 pm to
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Kansas has had 2 since then. 88 and 2008.



Yea, and Indiana won in 1987, but I don't remember either of those. My first real memories were roughly 91/92. That's what I meant by "seen" (not exactly well phrased ).
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:38 pm
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:39 pm to
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It apparently means something


I agree, but let’s not act like it is everything either, especially at present day Louisville.
Posted by CatBBN
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:39 pm to
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Pearl has built Auburn into a program that can compete with anybody in the nation. Why leave? Just so he can say he coached at Louisville?


Saying you had success at Louisville means a lot more than Auburn. No one cares about Auburn. Auburn is no different than Dayton, Wichita St, Alabama or any other flavor of the month team. Top program in the league and you have Zero NCs and one week as the top ranked team and Auburn fans have done lost their mind.
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:40 pm to
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Blue bloods in basketball, on whole, have faired much better than blue bloods in football in the 2000s.



That is because of the SEC's dominance of CF and how champions are crowned in CF. But in BB you have teams like Gonzaga and Butler being able to compete, Blue Bloods are going to die on the vine and just like in CF, the power shift to the SEC and its mega sports image will kill off some others on that list. That is why it is so important for other conferences to counter the SEC ASAP.
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:41 pm to
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Saying you had success at Louisville means a lot more than Auburn.


WTF is this bullshite. Same as saying it doesn't mean anything that Stoops had success at Kentucky in football. If anything it says a LOT that Pearl was able to bring a program back from the dead that the piece of shite Barbee tanked.
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:42 pm to
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Saying you had success at Louisville means a lot more than Auburn


You might want to give this statement some more thought..
Posted by Leto II
Arrakis
Member since Dec 2018
21274 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:42 pm to
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You might want to give this statement some more thought..


Uh yeah
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:44 pm to
I just don't see Pearl leaving for Louisville at all. He's in a unique situation in age, professional situation (NCAA) and being at a place where he basically built it from scratch. He truly seems to love where he is and what he has built and he legitimately has as good a recruiting situation and pipeline (Atlanta) as anybody outside of the elite recruiting situations (Duke, Kentucky). The recruiting situation, IMHO, is the clincher here. He, more than anybody else, owns a recruiting area that is as fertile as anywhere in America. He signs an elite, NBA/G-League level player (or multiple) from metro Atlanta 2 out of every 3 years (Brown, Harper, Okeke, Okoro, Cooper, Thor, Jabari) and that isn't going to change anytime soon.

I just don't see it. At all.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:49 pm
Posted by CatBBN
Member since Jan 2020
2426 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:48 pm to
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WTF is this bull shite. Same as saying it doesn't mean anything that Stoops had success at Kentucky in football

If Stoops were to get the Texas job and have success there would it not mean more to the rest of the college football world? Some jobs are just viewed different and carry more weight. Auburn isn't one of them.
Posted by Referee
North Alabama
Member since Dec 2021
3010 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:49 pm to
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one week as the top ranked team and Auburn fans have done lost their mind.


Hey, the mugs are already printed and the mural is being painted.
Posted by TigerProwl24
Gulf Coast
Member since May 2015
3975 posts
Posted on 1/27/22 at 12:51 pm to
All that you said, plus the present situation at Louisville..

And this whole conversation is pointless because Louisville doesn’t want Pearl anyways. Sure, they would love the success on the court he would inevitably bring but they have bigger issues than just winning.
This post was edited on 1/27/22 at 12:55 pm
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