re: Anyone believe Ole Miss goes to the extreme measure of changing its Rebel name?

They ought to completely surrender and go with the Mississippi Magnolias

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remove all public honors & recognitions associated with the confederacy, jim crow Laws, sympathizers of Slavery, and other similar a-holes that possessed ideologies that run counter to the Freedoms outlined in our Constitution

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This guy was a slave owner. Let's tear down this statue!!!!



Who was he? Ulysses S. Grant.

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Grant personally owned one slave, William Jones, given to him in 1857 by his father-in-law.

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Here is a list of US Presidents that owned slaves.
Andrew Jackson, Andrew Johnson, George Washington, James K. Polk, James Madison, James Monroe, John Tyler, Martin Van Buren, Thomas Jefferson, Ulysses S. Grant, William Henry Harrison, Zachary Taylor

Reprehensible today? Yes. But Was it legal and an accepted practice during their time? Yes. Can we fault them for doing something that was not against the moral code of the time? No. I don't have to approve of the practice, but I also don't have to condemn those that practiced it. I just have to understand the practice in terms of the cultural norms of the day. This was the first lesson we learned when I took Cultural Anthropology about 1,000,000 years ago.

Let's do a bit of a thought experiment here. Let's say PETA is right and oh 50 or so years from now we discover that dogs and cats are sentient beings. Because of this, dog and cat ownership is outlawed. Should future generations condemn our actions today because society gained knowledge in the future? I would say no, but you are free to make your own decision.

Now this is a wholly different argument than us erecting monuments and statues in modern times to those who practiced and supported oppression in the past.

The already replaced one of the greatest mascots of all time with a freaking “land shark”. So yeah I wouldn’t say it’s a big stretch.

I'm perfectly comfortable defunding the police if we have these warriors protecting us from the alt-right scourge.

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You still don't get it! No one is bowing down to PC Culture The masses are merely correcting horrible decisions of the past, many of those decisions were made in defiant response to Supreme Court Decisions that were supposed to make our Land more fair, more equal, and more perfect for all of its Citizens Our Country never should have gone down the road of Revisionist History and erected monuments to remember traitorous, treasonous losers, had better decisions been made back then, the activities of today would not be necessary Wouldn't you consider it intelligent to correct bad decisions as soon as you can rather than just let it linger? These divisive, defiant, poor decisions of the past are merely getting what they deserve Why is it so hard for people to admit these were poor decisions in the past, and that PC Culture isn't the issue? Folks want to lay blame everywhere else, except where the blame belongs

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your such a pussy snowflake

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The one slave that he owned, when Lincoln issued the Emancipation Proclamation, did Grant free that slave or did he do like r e lee and say "fvck you Abe, I'm keeping my slaves and I'm gonna go to War over keeping my slaves"?

One slave was left to him by his father, and you're comparing this guy to r e lee, think about how fvcking big Arlington National Cemetery is, that was r e lee's plantation that he had chock full of slaves making him wealthy for that Era

When US Grant kicked his punk arse, his Land was snatched up by the Federal Govt and turned into Arlington National

You compare Grant's 1 slave to lee filling Arlington National with slaves

Ridiculous!

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Does the origin of you anger over slaves begin with the people who sold them ?

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There is not one statue on American Soil of a person or tribe who sold rival tribes into slavery, therefore this bullshite misdirection on your part is completely immaterial to this discussion and immaterial to any of my comments

All the college administrators come from the same background, education and sensibilities. Of course they’ll attempt to erase Ole Miss. These are a hateful bunch of people hiding behind a mask of empathy.

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And?

Learn it and and study it in classrooms and museums, erecting statues means that you are honoring them, we shouldn't honor treasonous, traitorous losers with a statue on public land

By all means study their lives, by all means move the statues to private land , or to a privately funded museum dedicated to their revisionist history (protected by the 1stA, see I'm being fair)

But no way should those statues be on public land, you want to honor a guy that went to War with the US and lost, do it on private property

There are enough people from previous generations that did great things without owning Slaves, without being Racist, without being Segregationist, without trying to overthrow our Government, to name schools, streets, public bldgs, public parks, Counties, and Cities after them

Seeking out former confederates for these honors is forced and contrived for one singular purpose, to antagonize Minorities in America

Anyone that thinks otherwise has either not been exposed to American History or refuses to study American History

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Lee was an excellent general.

The statues recognize his craft as an excellent American general trained at West Point and who graduated top of his class.

But you psycho SJW’s turn it into a race war.