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Anyone believe Ole Miss goes to the extreme measure of changing its Rebel name?

Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:46 pm
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:46 pm
This is both a political post and SEC related post but amid the controversy of the southern historical figures and their symbols, does anyone believe Ole Miss takes drastic measures and changes the “Rebel” name?

Everyone seems to be bowing down to the PC culture, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they completely do away with anything associating the university to the “rebel” name.
This post was edited on 6/11/20 at 10:26 pm
Posted by Sput
Member since Mar 2020
7864 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:48 pm to
It is Rebals baw. Didn’t you learn anything from Jim Kelley’s nephew?
Posted by The Winner
Member since Nov 2016
7908 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:49 pm to
Change their mascot again? I guess they figured out neither sharks nor beaches can be found anywhere near Oxford.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68406 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:53 pm to
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I guess they figured out neither sharks nor beaches can be found anywhere near Oxford.
Making fun of a school honoring a war vet who played at the school. Classy
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
21843 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:54 pm to
They got rid of the rebels mascot years ago. Do you live under a rock?
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 9:57 pm to
Yes but they are still called the rebels. No one calls them the ole miss sharks.
This post was edited on 6/11/20 at 9:59 pm
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3679 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 10:03 pm to
Rebel: showing a desire to resist authority, control, or convention.

I don’t see the problem here.
Posted by GreyReb
Member since Jun 2010
3892 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:42 pm to
I could handle Ole Miss Blues. As long as they don’t take Ole Miss I’m good.

Also being thrown around is Flood since we were Mississippi Flood before becoming Ole Miss Rebels
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 6/11/20 at 11:50 pm to
How about the Ole Miss Rivers? That has a nice ring to it.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:07 am to
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Everyone seems to be bowing down to the PC culture, so it wouldn’t surprise me if they completely do away with anything associating the university to the “rebel” name.

You still don't get it!

No one is bowing down to PC Culture

The masses are merely correcting horrible decisions of the past, many of those decisions were made in defiant response to Supreme Court Decisions that were supposed to make our Land more fair, more equal, and more perfect for all of its Citizens

Our Country never should have gone down the road of Revisionist History and erected monuments to remember traitorous, treasonous losers, had better decisions been made back then, the activities of today would not be necessary

Wouldn't you consider it intelligent to correct bad decisions as soon as you can rather than just let it linger?

These divisive, defiant, poor decisions of the past are merely getting what they deserve

Why is it so hard for people to admit these were poor decisions in the past, and that PC Culture isn't the issue?

Folks want to lay blame everywhere else, except where the blame belongs
Posted by coondaddy21
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
3222 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 12:22 am to
many statues of past leaders also wrote the constitution and had slaves. It’s a part of our history. Andrew Jackson helped repel the British in New Orleans and they took his statue down. We are all products of our time and History is just that, History, something to be learned and studied.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 2:16 am to
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many statues of past leaders also wrote the constitution and had slaves. It’s a part of our history. Andrew Jackson helped repel the British in New Orleans and they took his statue down. We are all products of our time and History is just that, History, something to be learned and studied.

And?

Learn it and and study it in classrooms and museums, erecting statues means that you are honoring them, we shouldn't honor treasonous, traitorous losers with a statue on public land

By all means study their lives, by all means move the statues to private land , or to a privately funded museum dedicated to their revisionist history (protected by the 1stA, see I'm being fair)

But no way should those statues be on public land, you want to honor a guy that went to War with the US and lost, do it on private property

There are enough people from previous generations that did great things without owning Slaves, without being Racist, without being Segregationist, without trying to overthrow our Government, to name schools, streets, public bldgs, public parks, Counties, and Cities after them

Seeking out former confederates for these honors is forced and contrived for one singular purpose, to antagonize Minorities in America

Anyone that thinks otherwise has either not been exposed to American History or refuses to study American History
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 2:20 am
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4636 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 4:09 am to
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Folks want to lay blame everywhere else, except where the blame belongs


Where do you lay the blame for black on black crime ? Where do you lay the blame for the murdered children by black gangs ? Where do you lay the blame for the 77% of fatherless homes in the black community ? Where do you lay blame for rioting, looting and in some cases burning black businesses after the owners worked hard to build their business ?

Instead of bitching about the past you should do something to resolve the present. A million problems in the world and you want to bitch about statues. Those statues, rebel flags and college mascots don't affect your life or community even a little bit. Your life is dedicated to playing victim because you got noting else to offer.
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 4:40 am to
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Where do you lay the blame for black on black crime ? Where do you lay the blame for the murdered children by black gangs ? Where do you lay the blame for the 77% of fatherless homes in the black community ? Where do you lay blame for rioting, looting and in some cases burning black businesses after the owners worked hard to build their business ?

Instead of bitching about the past you should do something to resolve the present. A million problems in the world and you want to bitch about statues. Those statues, rebel flags and college mascots don't affect your life or community even a little bit. Your life is dedicated to playing victim because you got noting else to offer.

The main cause of black on black crime is poverty, no different than places in Appalachia where you have concentrations of poor whites, banging over Meth territory or over the best spots to grow weed on Government Land

Just because there are bad things in the black community isn't a license or free pass at confederate monuments erected in defiance of SCOTUS Decisions that bigots & racists feared would allow Blacks to be treated fairly and equal to whites, that is why 90% or more of them were erected, in defiance of Court Cases that bigots & racists lost

How about you allow folks like me to multitask and get rid of those statues and monuments to confederates that didn't deserve to be honored anyway, AND improve things that need to be improved in 2020.

Hell they weren't great Military Leaders by any stretch of the imagination, they were fvcking LOSERS, and sympathizers of chicken shite losers want to rewrite that Era of History for their own selfish purposes by defending these monuments

Explain why you want to redirect attention away from cowardly assholes that lost their citizenship, and once were branded as treasonous traitors?

Why are you so passionate about defending these traitors?

Your answer to everything is "forget about these traitors, what about these crime stats"?

Why would you want your children & grandchildren to grow up in the Deep South and see Bldgs, Schools, Streets, and Statues honoring enemies to our Country that LOST THEIR CITIZENSHIP due to TREASON?

Explain why you think they are a good role model for your children or anyone's child?

The more dumbass comments you make, the worse you look, and the more questions you create that you need to answer
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 5:43 am
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4636 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:23 am to
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The main cause of black on black crime is poverty, no different than places in Appalachia where you have concentrations of poor whites, banging over Meth territory or over the best spots to grow weed on Government Land


And who are you going to blame ? It's always about blaming someone instead of doing something about getting yourself out of poverty. Why is it latinos can migrate to America and build a life for themselves not knowing English when they arrive ? It's because they aren't looking for government to support them. They work and don't play victim.

Yet you play victim. Over and over again. Ole Miss has done more good for black folk than harm. Multiple scholarships that allow them to get educations to break generational poverty and you bitch about statues. Ask a grade schooler if they know who any of those people are who have statues. Those statues aren't role models. School children of today have no idea who those people are.

I haven't seen one sentence from you addressing any of the questions I asked. You don't want to address them. You don't want to admit those problems exist and it's no ones fault but their own. You want to blame the white man and deflect. That's what you do. You're a terrible representative of your race. So many wonderful black people who have done so many wonderful things who enrich the lives of those around them. You aren't one of them.

You want to see a real, true black American hero ? A guy who is changing the black culture one by one ? One who doesn't preach victimhood but opportunity ? Check out LINK / Roynell Young who played for the Philadelphia Eagles is the man who founded this school. His story and how his vision has become reality should be put in history books. I met Roy in the late 90's. What he has accomplished through work and education is reshaping how young black men approach life through the lens of opportunity. Not rioting and looting and blaming statues or bitching about statues. Like you.

Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:51 am to
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Ask a grade schooler if they know who any of those people are who have statues. Those statues aren't role models. School children of today have no idea who those people are.

If this is how you really feel, then you shouldn't be so passionate in your disagreement to remove all public honors & recognitions associated with the confederacy, jim crow Laws, sympathizers of Slavery, and other similar assholes that possessed ideologies that run counter to the Freedoms outlined in our Constitution
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
4636 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 5:55 am to
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If this is how you really feel, then you shouldn't be so passionate in your disagreement to remove all public honors & recognitions associated with the confederacy, jim crow Laws, sympathizers of Slavery, and other similar a-holes that possessed ideologies that run counter to the Freedoms outlined in our Constitution


Does the origin of you anger over slaves begin with the people who sold them ?
Posted by PeeJayScammedGT
Kennesaw, GA
Member since Oct 2019
2148 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:06 am to
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You want to see a real, true black American hero ? A guy who is changing the black culture one by one ? One who doesn't preach victimhood but opportunity ? Check out LINK / Roynell Young who played for the Philadelphia Eagles is the man who founded this school. His story and how his vision has become reality should be put in history books. I met Roy in the late 90's. What he has accomplished through work and education is reshaping how young black men approach life through the lens of opportunity. Not rioting and looting and blaming statues or bitching about statues. Like you.

That's ironic that you mention the good deeds of this wonderful person Roynell Young

Did it ever occur to you, that if your heroes memorialized by statues and bldg names had won the War, then it is "theoretically possible" that Roynell Young might have been born into Slavery and denied an Education and the ability to do all these beautiful things for other people, you see the confederacy and the institution of slavery would have stolen most of his human potential and his ability to help others?

Did it ever occur to that if anti-American assholes had not defied the Separate but Equal decision that came down from the SCOTUS , then schools like the one you highlight above wouldn't be necessary, the Public schools in poor Areas would be equal to any other public school

Let's see, a-hole racists (that you defend) defy the SCOTUS, creating separate and NOT EQUAL, and then you give the guy that starts his own School a pat on the back, even though the actions of bigots & racists over hundreds of years is WHY we need these kinds Schools to begin with?

Do you realize how fvcking confused & hypocritical your thought processes are?
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
35890 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:27 am to
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to remove all public honors & recognitions associated with the confederacy, jim crow Laws, sympathizers of Slavery, and other similar a-holes that possessed ideologies that run counter to the Freedoms outlined in our Constitution 

If this is the standard for statue removal, we may as well tear down every statue or monument of people who lived prior to the Civil Rights era. You are a cultural fascist.
This post was edited on 6/12/20 at 6:28 am
Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12929 posts
Posted on 6/12/20 at 6:36 am to
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Do you realize how fvcking confused & hypocritical your thought processes are?


Look into the mirror.
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