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re: Analyst: Georgia is college football's most overrated program
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:34 am to Jake_LaMotta
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:34 am to Jake_LaMotta
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Florida won those games. There is no dispute about it except from butthurt Georgia fans it seems. Had Florida lost those games then we could come on here and discuss whether they deserved to be there or not. Talk about misunderstanding.
Winning the game does not mean you deserved to be in it. Those are separate things.
I'll make up an example:
Team A is 12-0 and in championship.
Team B is 10-2 and beat team C.
Team C is 10-2 and lost to team B.
Objectively, with the limited info provided, the championship should be Team A vs. Team B.
If, hypothetically, a committee or poll put team C in instead of Team B, that would already be an undeserved result.
If Team C then beat Team A in the championship, that would not make their presence in that game deserved. It just means they took advantage of an undeserved good break.
This post was edited on 5/9/19 at 11:35 am
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Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:35 am to bigDgator
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I think placing the bar at National Championships is a ridiculous way to determine success.
When you are located in a talent-rich state with absolutely no in-state rival worth a damn that can steal that talent from you, and you only have one national championship in the Poll Era, it's a pretty good way of determining overall success. This is especially true when five different SEC teams have won national championships since Georgia won its last nearly 40 years ago.
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I was going to throw out a few programs who I think are more overrated than UGa. Texas, Oregon and Notre Dame. Feel free to disagree with me.
Oregon doesn't belong on that list seeing as they only became consistently relevant about 10 years ago. And they left the national scene just as quickly as they came. You can definitely make a case for Texas and Notre Dame in more recent history. Historically, however, those two programs have enjoyed much greater success than Georgia has.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:38 am to RollTide1987
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When you are located in a talent-rich state with absolutely no in-state rival worth a damn that can steal that talent from you,
Nice way of downplaying the proximity of Auburn, Alabama, Clemson, FSU, UF, Tennessee, and Atlanta being one of the largest transient cities in the country
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:41 am to RollTide1987
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located in a talent-rich state with absolutely no in-state rival worth a damn that can steal that talent from you
this is such a ridiculously weak argument. Just because tech is our only instate rival doens't mean there's some kind of invisible barracade around the state preventing other teams in. Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, FSU, UF, SC, and Clemson are all a stone's throw away from our border and there's only so much talent you can keep at home. There have absolutely been years where more talent left the state than you'd want to see happen, but the "no in state rival" argument is weak.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Plus, it doesn’t help that Smart may have met his match in Mullen, who turned UF’s program around in one season and is starting to challenge Smart’s superiority on the recruiting trail.
LOL wut
totally hahah
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:46 am to bigDgator
I would go with Texas and Michigan as most overrated rather than UGA. Notes Damme, too.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:47 am to Sid E Walker
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I would go with Texas and Michigan as most overrated rather than UGA
Texas has 1 national title since 1970.
Michigan has 1 national title since 1950!
And neither of those have had to play in the meatgrinder that is the SEC.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:48 am to WG_Dawg
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this is such a ridiculously weak argument.
It really isn't.
Miami, Florida, and Florida State all had to deal with the same issues that Georgia has had to deal with. The only difference is the previously aforementioned schools were able to combine to win 11 national championships since Georgia won its last.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:49 am to bigDgator
If analysts nowadays spent more time analysing instead of pushing agendas I might would listen to them. But they don't and neither do I
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:51 am to Crowknowsbest
Georgia fan who doesn't understand what winning means. I am shocked 
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:53 am to RollTide1987
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It really isn't.
Miami, Florida, and Florida State all had to deal with the same issues that Georgia has had to deal with. The only difference is the previously aforementioned schools were able to combine to win 11 national championships since Georgia won its last.
What you posted doesn't invalidate my post. It's also worth noting that in the late 80s and entirety of the 90s, when those 3 schools (and others locally) were dominating, UGA was going through one of its worst periods in history. Look at our recruiting under Ricth adn now with kirby compared to it in the 90s. It's kidna common sense that when you're a good team and program you're going to be able to recruit better. You've seen it in the last 5 years in FL as well with a TON of elite FL kids shunning those 3 programs to go out of state.
AGain, tech being the only in-state rival to UGA doesn't automatically mean that we shouldn't have always been able to recruit at a balls out level.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:54 am to WG_Dawg
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Texas has 1 national title since 1970.
Michigan has 1 national title since 1950!
But Texas has won 7 conference championships since 1983 while Michigan has won a further 11 conference titles in that same time span. Georgia has won 3.
It also must be stated that each of those national championships have been won more recently than Georgia's.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:55 am to Sid E Walker
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I would go with Texas and Michigan as most overrated rather than UGA. Notes Damme, too.
Perhaps those two are more overrated, but nobody underachieves like Georgia.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:57 am to myflabbersghasted
Given the amount of rival fans in this thread who agree...it seems UGA, at some point, will be the most dominant program in football. All of you seem to feel we have the resources to do so....it's just a matter of time I guess.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:58 am to RollTide1987
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Texas has won 7 conference championships since 1983 while Michigan has won a further 11 conference titles in that same time span. Georgia has won 3.
neither has faced half the amount of competition on a regular basis as we have either.
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each of those national championships have been won more recently than Georgia's.
do you think an 18 year old recruit cares if a title was won in 1997 or 1980 since both were before they were born? They were "more recent" but none of the 3 are "recent". The point was, on the topic of underatchiving, that both of those historical "blue blood" programs have each won 1 national title over the last 4-5 decades.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 11:58 am to WG_Dawg
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Look at our recruiting under Ricth adn now with kirby compared to it in the 90s. It's kidna common sense that when you're a good team and program you're going to be able to recruit better. You've seen it in the last 5 years in FL as well with a TON of elite FL kids shunning those 3 programs to go out of state.
Since Mark Richt arrived at Georgia in 2001, those three Florida schools have still combined to win 4 national championships. Georgia has been consistently recruiting lights out since the late-90s and still have yet to win a national championship. That's underachievement no matter how you slice it.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:03 pm to WG_Dawg
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neither has faced half the amount of competition on a regular basis as we have either.
Don't act like competition in the SEC East is what it used to be. Florida hasn't been nationally relevant for almost a decade and Tennessee's last title-worthy team was nearly 20 years ago. They've been straight up dogshit since 2008.
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do you think an 18 year old recruit cares if a title was won in 1997 or 1980 since both were before they were born?
We're not talking about what recruits think. We're talking in terms of how the program has been historically. Historically speaking, Texas and Michigan have had more success than Georgia and that success has also come more recently than Georgia.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:06 pm to RollTide1987
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Since Mark Richt arrived at Georgia in 2001, those three Florida schools have still combined to win 4 national championships. Georgia has been consistently recruiting lights out since the late-90s and still have yet to win a national championship. That's underachievement no matter how you slice it.
What do you consider lights out? UGA is the 8th most winning team since 2000 and I'd be willing to bet their recruiting average is around there as well.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:06 pm to bigDgator
The correct answer is, of course, LSU.
They still beat their chest like they're world beaters and haven't even won their division since 2011.
They still beat their chest like they're world beaters and haven't even won their division since 2011.
Posted on 5/9/19 at 12:07 pm to bigDgator
Says the fat, bald Italian from Floriduh.
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