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Posted on 10/12/25 at 10:53 am to theballguy
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 10:58 am to tpatten
Missouri probably did abandon the run game a little too early, but Alabama was controlling it for the most part (or at the very least keeping it from controlling drives).
Missouri had 163 yards rushing, but 38% of those yards were on 2 rushes.
1st drive - 23 Pribula
before half - 39 Roberts
2 runs for 62 yards (31 YPC)
26 runs for 101 yards (3.9 YPC)
For as good as Mizzou has been at imposing their will at the LOS, Alabama did a pretty good job of holding runs that had been getting Mizzou 5-7 yards consistently in prior games 2-5 yards in this game. And the way Mizzou plays that put them in a lot more 3rd and 5+ at some point in a drive when their initial run didn't get 4-5.
However, the alternative of letting Pribula drop back and just throw clearly wasn't ready for prime time, so it feels like once they got back in the game you just have to stick with your plan, run the football, get into 3rd and 4-6 and then hope for the best.
Missouri had 163 yards rushing, but 38% of those yards were on 2 rushes.
1st drive - 23 Pribula
before half - 39 Roberts
2 runs for 62 yards (31 YPC)
26 runs for 101 yards (3.9 YPC)
For as good as Mizzou has been at imposing their will at the LOS, Alabama did a pretty good job of holding runs that had been getting Mizzou 5-7 yards consistently in prior games 2-5 yards in this game. And the way Mizzou plays that put them in a lot more 3rd and 5+ at some point in a drive when their initial run didn't get 4-5.
However, the alternative of letting Pribula drop back and just throw clearly wasn't ready for prime time, so it feels like once they got back in the game you just have to stick with your plan, run the football, get into 3rd and 4-6 and then hope for the best.
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 10:59 am
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:05 am to SummerOfGeorge
Alabama took away the outside zone stretch on the play side and that is the staple of their offense. If Alabama had a bit sounder backside scrape on those plays, Hardy probably does next to nothing on those calls. He's a great, slippery back built like a manhole cover though. He does a great job of bouncing off tackles and the backside was not cleaning him up on those late bounce/cutbacks.
Alabama as limited as they are on defense, gotta take the dubs where you can get them and eliminating the zone stretch effectiveness to the play side and forcing Hardy to operate in a mess on cutbacks to the backside is about as good as we could hope for imo. Frankly, he was going to get some yardage in those situations because that has been his game by my limited "scouting" (watching the game on my couch
) of Mizzou prior to this game. However, they kill you when he can get around the edge and starts bouncing off your corners and safeties instead of linemen and linebackers.
Alabama as limited as they are on defense, gotta take the dubs where you can get them and eliminating the zone stretch effectiveness to the play side and forcing Hardy to operate in a mess on cutbacks to the backside is about as good as we could hope for imo. Frankly, he was going to get some yardage in those situations because that has been his game by my limited "scouting" (watching the game on my couch
) of Mizzou prior to this game. However, they kill you when he can get around the edge and starts bouncing off your corners and safeties instead of linemen and linebackers. This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 11:07 am
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:06 am to Tigerfan0318
Bama impressed me.
Road wins in the SEC are a struggle.
Road wins in the SEC are a struggle.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:13 am to NickPapageorgio
Simpson was incredible. He;s the best player in the sec.
That 4th and 8 throw was perfection. Pride had perfect coverage and he just made a perfect throw.
He was the difference in the game.
Simpson was great. Pribula was below average. Ball game.
That 4th and 8 throw was perfection. Pride had perfect coverage and he just made a perfect throw.
He was the difference in the game.
Simpson was great. Pribula was below average. Ball game.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:16 am to Mizzouligan
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Simpson was great. Pribula was below average. Ball game.
Yea, it really did end up being the difference. Ty made 5-6 huge throws on 3rd and 4th downs and Pribula wasn't able to do the same. Ty wasn't great (took some bad sacks, got a little too big play oriented instead of taking easy 5-7 yard check downs), but he made some huge throws in the biggest swing moments of the game (3rd and long TD to Horton, 4th and 8, etc).
Most games between the Top 8-10 teams int he league are going to play out like this - much more like the NFL where 3rd downs, red zone conversion, etc decide 80% of games.
Mizzou is legit - we're lucky to walk out of there with a win.
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 11:17 am
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:26 am to Mizz-SEC
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Disagree. Mizzou averaged 6 YPC on the ground.
This is true. But that average is that high because of a couple of explosive plays.
If a team can actually gain 6 yards on every run then they can’t lose without turning the ball over. They will sustain every drive and score. But Missouri was 1-10 on third down. They had 11 possessions and scored on 4 of them. Two of their three touchdowns were passing touchdowns.
Missouri is a good, tough team. They played well. They almost won. But I am pointing out that stats can be misleading. You can’t say they would have won if they had just run it more. Who knows? If they had abandoned the passing game and run the ball every play Alabama would have likely adjusted and that rushing average would have gone down. And again two of Missouri’s three touchdowns were passing TDs.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:27 am to Tigerfan0318
You guys were the more physical team and I wish your RB played on our team
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Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:37 am to tpatten
No doubt, how many times did we run our vaunted outside zone that we have perfected ad nauseum over the 1st 5 weeks? Moore had a bad day for sure, and Beau simply looked lost in that 2 minute offense at the end. As bad if day as the tingers had, they were still driving with a chance to tie or win with our fastest receiver standing wide open when we threw a pick. Yeesh!
Posted on 10/12/25 at 11:38 am to Mizz-SEC
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Mizzou averaged 6 YPC on the ground. All it takes is an OC willing to commit to it for four quarters.
Most of that was on the first drive, and then one big run. For most plays, Missouri was fairly pedestrian running the ball.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:02 pm to skrayper
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Most of that was on the first drive, and then one big run. For most plays, Missouri was fairly pedestrian running the ball.
There used to be a Rams announcer on St. Louis radio who was well known for saying, "If you subtract --- and --- they only gave up --- on the ground". The point of sticking with the run is to get those explosive plays. And hopefully more of them in the 2nd half.
Our OC abandoned the run in what was a one score affair for most of the game.
Congrats on the win. You deserved it. But this loss is on our OC as much as it is our QB.
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 1:03 pm
Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:09 pm to Tigerfan0318
Damn baw. You took your teeth out for that one.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:11 pm to Tigerfan0318
Mizzou is good man. We’re just clicking right now. I see at least one loss coming our way maybe two. It all depends on who is healthy when the time comes in this league. We’re all beating up on each other right now
Posted on 10/12/25 at 1:12 pm to Mizz-SEC
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There used to be a Rams announcer on St. Louis radio who was well known for saying, "If you subtract --- and --- they only gave up --- on the ground". The point of sticking with the run is to get those explosive plays. And hopefully more of them in the 2nd half.
Our OC abandoned the run in what was a one score affair for most of the game.
Congrats on the win. You deserved it. But this loss is on our OC as much as it is our QB.
One was on the script (and a QB run). Another was in a scramble 2 minute period. Neither was by your bellcow and neither was on your base outside zone play that your entire scheme has revolved around this year.
I don't entirely disagree that you gave it up too fast, because the 2nd option of letting Pribula sit back there in a traditional drop back game is not a winning scheme. However, the consistency of 4-6 yard runs is a pretty big deal for your offense, because it has to stay on schedule to get Pribula into clear run/pass option situations for a defense. What we did by doing a good job on 90% of the run plays was put you guys in a lot of passing downs, which helped end a lot of drives. I agree part of continuing with it is because it can pop big ones every 15 or so (and agree moreso when the pass came isn't creating any explosives), but it was big on our end for those 166 yards to be 2 big hits and a bunch of small cuts than 20 runs of 6 yards that dictated the flow of the offense.
I think it was a tough spot for Moore to be in. I was a little surprised there wasn't more run/pass option quick hitters to the outside on early downs mixed in once the run game was slowed a bit. But maybe our defensive looks dictated you out of that.
This post was edited on 10/12/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 10/12/25 at 2:38 pm to Mizz-SEC
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There used to be a Rams announcer on St. Louis radio who was well known for saying, "If you subtract --- and --- they only gave up --- on the ground". The point of sticking with the run is to get those explosive plays. And hopefully more of them in the 2nd half.
Our OC abandoned the run in what was a one score affair for most of the game.
Congrats on the win. You deserved it. But this loss is on our OC as much as it is our QB.
The point of the run is to generate consistent yardage to get first downs. Running the ball 3 times in a row hoping for a big run and then punting is bad coaching.
The fact is that Missori ran the ball as often as they passed (28 carries / 28 pass attempts) and gained more yardage (albeit not by much) through the air as they did on the ground. They were more successful through the air after the first drive than they were on the ground.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 3:07 pm to skrayper
FWIW, I ran in to some awesome Tide fans yesterday at game and around COMO last night. Mizzou had their chance, tis the life of a mizzou fan. Drink is building, but QB looked rough. Defense was elite at times, offensive struggles has been a theme under Drink since he got here. Anyone entertaining Moore for HC should watch that game. Some head scratching play calls, the few opportunities we had 2nd and 5 or less literally zero shots down the field. Vanilla game plan, everyone wrote off first 5 games as hiding the playbook…I’d say Moore is just vanilla.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 3:12 pm to MIZ58
Btw, loved the 4th down calls by Deboer. Dude let his nuts hang…huge play calls. It’s up to the players to make a play, Bama consistently did so, MIZ did not.
Posted on 10/12/25 at 4:28 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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One was on the script (and a QB run). Another was in a scramble 2 minute period. Neither was by your bellcow and neither was on your base outside zone play that your entire scheme has revolved around this year.
I don't entirely disagree that you gave it up too fast, because the 2nd option of letting Pribula sit back there in a traditional drop back game is not a winning scheme. However, the consistency of 4-6 yard runs is a pretty big deal for your offense
Hardy averaged 4.33 yards per carry (52 on 12). Unless you think 4+ yards is shitty. Hardy got four second half carries and Roberts got four total (excluding the punt fake). It's discouraging to know Hardy and Roberts really eat in the 3rd and 4th quarter and the OC takes the ball out of their hands. Oh well, OCs can choke too.
Just curious... Has anyone actually committed themselves to the run game for four quarters against you?
Posted on 10/12/25 at 7:38 pm to NickPapageorgio
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Bama impressed me.
Road wins in the SEC are a struggle.
They were always a bit more of a struggle than other conferences simply because it's the SEC. In the current rendition of college ball, and with OU & Texas part of the club, they are diamonds in the rough when you win.
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