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Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:48 am to BigSneezy
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:48 am to BigSneezy
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SCOTUS has standing. And they will uphold Texas law. You are wrong.
So if the Texas legislature decides their in state teams get an extra player you think that is gonna fly?
Again, you have chosen to be a member of the SEC which (unfortunately) is a member of the NCAA. If you don’t abide by their rules there can and will be consequences. Potentially $200M/year in consequences.
You wanna go rogue that’s your call but play by the rules as they exist or leave.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:49 am to RT1941
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So your boosters are running rogue? They are acting on behalf of aTm athletics completely without the knowledge or direction of aTm's Administration or coaching staff?
I’m saying that won’t be able to be disputed.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:51 am to SidewalkTiger
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Aggies can't seem to grasp the simple concept of existing players receiving NIL money vs enticing recruits with NIL money.
Exactly right
This post was edited on 7/19/22 at 9:52 am
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:53 am to tide06
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You wanna go rogue that’s your call but play by the rules as they exist or leave.
Nope. There is a third option. Sue and win.
If the SEC fined A&M for something they couldn’t legally do, A&M would sue. And would win.
Courts can and will overturn the will of the NCAA.
This is exactly why Saban has said we need federal legislation. Because he knows teams can and will get away with this until it’s resolved.
He’s not wrong.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 9:55 am to BigSneezy
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Nope. There is a third option. Sue and win.
If the SEC fined A&M for something they couldn’t legally do, A&M would sue. And would win.
Courts can and will overturn the will of the NCAA.
There's literally no hope for you.
You're choosing to remain willfully ignorant at this point.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:01 am to SidewalkTiger
I believe he is right Sidewalk. The courts would side with the school over the ncaa in todays environment.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:03 am to aTm boy
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I believe he is right Sidewalk. The courts would side with the school over the ncaa in todays environment.
It's possible but that's a matter of opinion right now.
As of today, A&M has no legal standing by which to sue the NCAA for enforcing its rules as they pertain to NIL.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:05 am to SidewalkTiger
No not now but if it went to court, they would likely favor the school. But even that might depend on the skill of our defense.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:06 am to SidewalkTiger
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You're choosing to remain willfully ignorant at this point.
I’m really not. I actually hope we get a better system. Because where we are is messed up. Royally.
But I also know there is no way any NCAA ruling will hold up regarding this as the laws and legal opinions stated by SCOTUS currently stand.
I don’t think A&M and others will continue to be able to exploit this advantage long. We will plug this hole.
But no one is going to “take them down”. Schools are openly advertising pay packages. It’s everywhere.
You hoping that A&M will get their is a dream. A wish. It’s not gonna happen.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:08 am to aTm boy
I think it'd be very tough because the NCAA is pretty clear about its stance on "pay for play" right now.
It would also likely depend on the severity of the violation and how much evidence there was.
One thing is for sure, it isn't a good look for members of the A&M coaching staff to be openly enticing recruits with NIL money on camera.
It would also likely depend on the severity of the violation and how much evidence there was.
One thing is for sure, it isn't a good look for members of the A&M coaching staff to be openly enticing recruits with NIL money on camera.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:09 am to agswin
TAMU HC: I am here to enable rapists until I eventually leave the program in ruins. Just like I did at FSU.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jameis-winston.html?_r=1&mtrref=undefined&gwh=8C626476BD27320341BEAAE6706F1B4A&gwt=pay&assetType=PAYWALL
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2841875-the-mess-jimbo-left-inside-fsus-fall-and-willie-taggarts-plan-to-rise-again
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2014/04/16/sports/errors-in-inquiry-on-rape-allegations-against-fsu-jameis-winston.html?_r=1&mtrref=undefined&gwh=8C626476BD27320341BEAAE6706F1B4A&gwt=pay&assetType=PAYWALL
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2841875-the-mess-jimbo-left-inside-fsus-fall-and-willie-taggarts-plan-to-rise-again
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:11 am to BigSneezy
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But I also know there is no way any NCAA ruling will hold up regarding this as the laws and legal opinions stated by SCOTUS currently stand.
Again, that's an opinion.
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Schools are openly advertising pay packages. It’s everywhere.
I haven't seen anyone doing it to the point of breaking rules, outside of maybe Texas' $50k offensive line thing and the comments by the Aggie coach.
Do you have another example?
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You hoping that A&M will get their is a dream. A wish. It’s not gonna happen.
I honestly don't care if Aggie gets "nailed" or not, everyone cheats.
I'm just correcting some of the delusional posts about NIL in this thread.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:13 am to BigSneezy
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You wanna go rogue that’s your call but play by the rules as they exist or leave.
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Nope. There is a third option. Sue and win.
If the SEC fined A&M for something they couldn’t legally do, A&M would sue. And would win.
Everybody see ^^^ what we have in the SEC folks?
When was the last time and SEC member institution threatened to sue the conference?
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:14 am to SidewalkTiger
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As of today, A&M has no legal standing by which to sue the NCAA for enforcing its rules as they pertain to NIL.
They certainly would have standing if the supposed sanctions harmed A&M. Not now. But if this domino fell, A&M absolutely would have standing and cause.
We are talking about a group of people that have put up a billion dollars for their football program.
You don’t think they would spend a few million on good lawyers that could win a lawsuit when the current environment regarding payment of players is in their favor?
They absolutely would. Would the win? Maybe not.
But there chances are good.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:15 am to SidewalkTiger
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One thing is for sure, it isn't a good look for members of the A&M coaching staff to be openly enticing recruits with NIL money on camera.
Agreed.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:18 am to BigSneezy
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They certainly would have standing if the supposed sanctions harmed A&M. Not now. But if this domino fell, A&M absolutely would have standing and cause.
This is false.
You can not seem to grasp the fact that the NCAA absolutely holds the school/program responsible for the action of its boosters, whether the school is involved or not, whether the school even knows about it or not.
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We are talking about a group of people that have put up a billion dollars for their football program.
You don’t think they would spend a few million on good lawyers that could win a lawsuit when the current environment regarding payment of players is in their favor?
They absolutely would. Would the win? Maybe not.
But there chances are good.
Again, it's possible but nowhere close to a slam dunk.
It's possible the NCAA could argue that NIL+education benefits is compensation enough and that A&M willfully broke rules for a competitive advantage (if a violation was actually discovered).
I'd give it a 50/50 shot either way.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:19 am to RT1941
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Everybody see ^^^ what we have in the SEC folks? When was the last time and SEC member institution threatened to sue the conference?
Dude. Calm down. This was in response to kicking A&M out. In that case, yes they would sue. No one is Willy Billy running around suing people unless it is provoked.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:20 am to BigSneezy
Sorry y’all, Alabama legislature just passed a law allowing Bama and Auburn to play athletes who have moved on to the NFL.
Our new starters are Mac Jones, Derrick Henry, Julio Jones and half the AFC all pro defense.
We hate it but our hands are pretty much tied. See y’all in September.
Our new starters are Mac Jones, Derrick Henry, Julio Jones and half the AFC all pro defense.
We hate it but our hands are pretty much tied. See y’all in September.
Posted on 7/19/22 at 10:20 am to SidewalkTiger
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It's possible the NCAA could argue that NIL+education benefits is compensation enough and that A&M willfully broke rules for a competitive advantage (if a violation was actually discovered).
This has already been argued by the NCAA in front of SCOTUS. And the NCAA lost. Look it up.
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