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re: Aggie Bonfire & Texas Rivalry Game Future
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:55 pm to Enzos Tiny Pito
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:55 pm to Enzos Tiny Pito
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...and don't have the issue of kids basically skipping a semester of school to cut down trees.
Ding ding ding! Present!
All of my "A&M called, you didn't graduate after all" nightmares are closely related to the Fall semester of my senior year. Which is as it should be.
To answer your question, the current incarnation is called "Student Bonfire". While I appreciate their efforts, it... well, ain't. It is way off-campus so making it out there to work on the stack is much more of a time commitment than in the good old days. And while many students do that, the leadership are mostly permanent employees and they have many more machines doing the lifting. No way is that the same. None of my business, though. If the students enjoy it, then carry on. There's no way it will ever come back to campus, though.
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 4:11 pm to Windy City
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Very stupid take. "National Significance" has never been a metric for any rivalry game
Not stupid and yes relevance is a metric. Not the only one granted, and for the locals the home rivalry will always be special; but don't kid yourself stakes don't raise the significance and intensity of the rivalry.
I agree USC-UCLA (and the other ones you cited) is a good rivalry and it's not to be dismissed totally, as shouldn't UT-A&M. I give you another one The Egg Bowl. Those two may dislike each other more than anyone else....
All have their place in the heart of the locals, but none of those holds a candle to what say Florida-FSU was for about 15 straight years. Those games even people that didn't regularly watched College Football would turn in.... and they are also bitter rivals.... it's a whole different level of relevance/intensity A&M just hasn't lived. Not a flame just a fact.
A&M-UT did have that Thanksgiving TV Slot that made it more watched that the rankings would deserve. On any given Saturday it would have been treated as just another game. That NEVER happens when two top 5 teams meet in November. Not to mention a #1 vs #2 between rivals. It's a different level.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 4:13 pm to BigBro
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At halftime of the game played a couple of days later, the Texas Band played Amazing Grace @ Kyle Field. I still get chills watching this performance. Definitely made me proud to be a Longhorn, and more importantly on that day, a Texan. The Aggies & Longhorns don’t agree on many things, but on that day, they stood together as Texans to pay respect to the students that were gone way too soon.
He is 100% correct here. Not a dry eye in the stadium after the Longhorn band lowered their flags and raised ours. Respect
Posted on 7/13/21 at 4:17 pm to Kentucker
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I don’t think the bonfire should ever come back. 12 people died. That’s too big a tragedy.
12 people died in a single preventable incident, in an event that had occurred for over a hundred years, with root cause being both clearly identified and generally not an issue if safety protocols developed over those 100 years had been followed.
Orders of magnitudes more people have died as a result of fraternity drinking parties (with FAR less positive aspects compared to Bonfire), yet there they still are.
Perspective.
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 4:19 pm
Posted on 7/13/21 at 4:21 pm to r2d2
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it's a whole different level of relevance/intensity A&M just hasn't lived. Not a flame just a fact.
You have no way of knowing that, just as I have no way of knowing what, say, the Michigan/OSU rivalry is like:
I’ll say this: I’ve watched fans from various “heated”rivalries interact civilly on this board. Horns and Ags don’t do that. Think Arabs/Israelis. H*A*T*E*
Posted on 7/13/21 at 4:23 pm to EKG
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Think Arabs/Israelis. H*A*T*E*
Exactly. The sips are the terrorist assholes.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 6:02 pm to BigBro
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The Aggies & Longhorns don’t agree on many things, but on that day, they stood together as Texans to pay respect to the students that were gone way too soon.
For those who get the rivalry, one would have to be soulless to not get chills at the Longhorn Band performance. Easily the classiest move I've ever seen. You are definitely entitled to be proud of that day.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 7:12 pm to EKG
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Our history with UTex is a tad different than Mizzou’s.
You’re right. Mizzou just left the conference for more money. They didn’t run and hide from their rival.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 7:14 pm to turnpiketiger
Exactly.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 8:01 pm to r2d2
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All have their place in the heart of the locals, but none of those holds a candle to what say Florida-FSU was for about 15 straight years. Those games even people that didn't regularly watched College Football would turn in.
Again, nonsensical. People tuning in had nothing to do with the rivalry. It had everything to do with those teams for a spell both being highly ranked and the featured games on ABC or CBS.
If people tune out as soon as rankings drop, they never really cared to begin with. No one really cares about Michigan football right now and therefore no one really cares about that rivalry game.
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 7/13/21 at 8:09 pm to TenTex
Lived in H-town when that happened. Horrible.
I am no where near A&M scoop but I would be shocked, outsider then & now, if that is ever a school sanctioned event.
Twelves souls no longer with us over a "tradition". Very, very sad.
I am no where near A&M scoop but I would be shocked, outsider then & now, if that is ever a school sanctioned event.
Twelves souls no longer with us over a "tradition". Very, very sad.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 8:28 pm to Kentucker
quote:I thought one female engineering student died, where did 12 come from
I don’t think the bonfire should ever come back. 12 people died
Posted on 7/13/21 at 8:52 pm to schmoo
You probably should edit that post out of respect for those that passed..
Wikipedia or search for it..
Wikipedia or search for it..
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 8:53 pm
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:23 pm to Windy City
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Again, nonsensical. People tuning in had nothing to do with the rivalry. It had everything to do with those teams for a spell both being highly ranked and the featured games on ABC or CBS.
I know from first hand experience how intense Florida- FSU is having attended in person some of the biggest matches in 96 and 97. I just didn’t go to the game I lived there and saw first hand how they really don’t like each other.
It’s all the hate you have in you UT-A&M with (for relative long stretches) two real Championship level programs.
Now that you don’t know what it is because A&M has never been in your lifetime.
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 9:28 pm
Posted on 7/13/21 at 9:56 pm to Turf Taint
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Twelves souls no longer with us over a "tradition". Very, very sad.
Now do binge drinking parties, fraternity hazing, or even NCAA sports, all of whom have had far more accidental deaths, and most of which produce very little benefit.
I don’t disagree that it will never be on campus again. Using one fatal accident (with clear, and preventable, root causes) as the moral reason, though, is just emotional pearl clutching.
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