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re: Aggie Bonfire & Texas Rivalry Game Future
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:48 am to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 7/13/21 at 11:48 am to CGSC Lobotomy
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The Bonfire burning was just the culmination of the events of that semester.
Cut in September
Load in October
Stack, push and burn in November.
It's similar with Christmas Eve bonfires on the levee.
We should get the A&M and LSU engineering departments together to take the record back from those Nordic sluts during one of our Thanksgiving games. Wouldn't be near campus but we could have a hell of a time at the parade grounds in BR.
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Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:17 pm to junkfunky
If it ever does come back, students will just watch and any stack will be built by a 3rd party construction company with lots of insurance.
I worked it for three years in the 90s. Quality control was definitely lacking and there was huge peer pressure inside dorms and other organizations to get out and help build. OSHA would have literally crapped their pants if they were called in prior to the collapse and they metaphorically and respectfully crapped their pants in the subsequent investigation report.
I worked it for three years in the 90s. Quality control was definitely lacking and there was huge peer pressure inside dorms and other organizations to get out and help build. OSHA would have literally crapped their pants if they were called in prior to the collapse and they metaphorically and respectfully crapped their pants in the subsequent investigation report.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:34 pm to Windy City
agree with Windy City. I worked cut my freshman year and I thought it was pretty dangerous. People swinging axes. trees falling right and left, and then carrying the trees out. Lots of potential for injury.
I went out one night to work stack and watched for a bit and decided no way was I going to be part of that. To me it was a lot more dangerous (which ultimately proved to be the case).
I'm glad I worked my freshman bonfire, and it will always have a special place in my heart. But its not ever happening again on campus with students running it.
I went out one night to work stack and watched for a bit and decided no way was I going to be part of that. To me it was a lot more dangerous (which ultimately proved to be the case).
I'm glad I worked my freshman bonfire, and it will always have a special place in my heart. But its not ever happening again on campus with students running it.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 12:37 pm to EKG
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I don’t think people care as much about the rivalry as they care about caring about the rivalry.
Iterations of this topic are posted weekly, and they’re simply used as excuses to troll. No one outside of the two universities involved honestly cares; yet “caring” about it has taken on a life of its own.
I put it right up there with the renewed rivalry of Oklahoma and Nebraska. Who really cares these days, besides team fans?
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:00 pm to bamameister
It doesn't help that Nebraska has backslid into total irrelevance. Those Tom Osborne future felon squads were some of the most dominating I have ever seen and there was that one stretch when Stoops got going when the OU/Nebraska matchups decided the national championship.
Not anymore.
Not anymore.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:13 pm to Windy City
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It doesn't help that Nebraska has backslid into total irrelevance. Those Tom Osborne future felon squads were some of the most dominating I have ever seen and there was that one stretch when Stoops got going when the OU/Nebraska matchups decided the national championship.
Not anymore.
The Big 8 part of the rivalry was epic, historic, magnificent. Bob Devaney, Johnny Rogers, Jerry Tagge vs Chuck Fairbanks, Gregg Pruitt, Jack Mildren. The first and maybe best "Game of the century."
They've all taken their ball and gone someplace else with it. Things change. We've all been through it in the SEC with expansion and division play way back in 1992.
You really "can't go home again." Life moves on.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:17 pm to bamameister
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The Big 8 part of the rivalry was epic, historic, magnificent. Bob Devaney, Johnny Rogers, Jerry Tagge vs Chuck Fairbanks, Gregg Pruitt, Jack Mildren. The first and maybe best "Game of the century."
Totally agree . . . .I am the son of a Sooner and my Grandad was a Sooner as well. My dad was IFC president at OU way back in the day and had a small office right next to Bud Wilkinson.
I was initially reared college football wise at Owen Field which predictably lead me to want to go to college elsewhere.
I drank deeply into that rivalry as well as Texas OU. Glad that one is still going and my Longhorn wife keeps dragging me out to that game.
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:20 pm to twk
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Kansas resuming its game with Missouri
Now this is another thing that does not get discussed nearly as much as it should here. If mizzou doesn’t puss out and plays Kansas will y’all grow a pair and play your big brother?
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:29 pm to Windy City
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Totally agree . . . .I am the son of a Sooner and my Grandad was a Sooner as well. My dad was IFC president at OU way back in the day and had a small office right next to Bud Wilkinson.
Oklahoma was a bad dude back then under Bud Wilkinson. If the guy hasn't just left football at such an early age he would have been the man coach Bryant and many others would be trying to pass for all-time wins. That guy was so far ahead of his time with his uptempo style it was almost an unfair fight at the time. A Sooner dynasty to say the least.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:39 pm to bamameister
So hypothetically ( if the families are ok with it etc).
The school comes back with the bonfire but they have to be the ones to do everything, so basically they just put a non dangerous stack of wood that they begin building game week out there.
If this eliminates the student run aspect minus a few ceremonial things but brings the bonfire back is this something the Aggies would even accept?
Additionally would the school even go for it, you eliminate a lot of the risk I assume and don't have the issue of kids basically skipping a semester of school to cut down trees. Or is this something that is too far past and they don't want to deal with the drunken festival that it was before more so then the fire even at this point
I would also assume you pick a different spot correct? I think having drunks doing stupid stuff near the memorial is a no go
The school comes back with the bonfire but they have to be the ones to do everything, so basically they just put a non dangerous stack of wood that they begin building game week out there.
If this eliminates the student run aspect minus a few ceremonial things but brings the bonfire back is this something the Aggies would even accept?
Additionally would the school even go for it, you eliminate a lot of the risk I assume and don't have the issue of kids basically skipping a semester of school to cut down trees. Or is this something that is too far past and they don't want to deal with the drunken festival that it was before more so then the fire even at this point
I would also assume you pick a different spot correct? I think having drunks doing stupid stuff near the memorial is a no go
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:39 pm to bamameister
Yep . . .still holds the record with 47 straight wins.
I really wish he had not done that old man thing and try to coach against Tom Landy in NFC East so late in life. Still, a small blemish on an otherwise amazing coaching career.
I really wish he had not done that old man thing and try to coach against Tom Landy in NFC East so late in life. Still, a small blemish on an otherwise amazing coaching career.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:43 pm to turnpiketiger
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If mizzou doesn’t puss out and plays Kansas
A Missouri fan on here recently said that they are scheduled to play from 2025 to 2032.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 1:53 pm to Enzos Tiny Pito
These kinds of proposals have been considered over the years. They're always "taken under consideration" never to be heard from again. I think the odds of anything ever happening with Bonfire in cooperation with the university are essentially zero. Every year that goes by without it is another year further removed from the tradition, and another year easier to not bring anything back at all. If there were any desire at all to bring the tradition back on-campus, something would have been worked out 10+ years ago. At this point, it's ancient history, and I believe the university has no desire to take on the risk of bringing it back in any form.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 2:02 pm to Krampus
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These kinds of proposals have been considered over the years. They're always "taken under consideration" never to be heard from again. I think the odds of anything ever happening with Bonfire in cooperation with the university are essentially zero. Every year that goes by without it is another year further removed from the tradition, and another year easier to not bring anything back at all. If there were any desire at all to bring the tradition back on-campus, something would have been worked out 10+ years ago. At this point, it's ancient history, and I believe the university has no desire to take on the risk of bringing it back in any form.
What is the biggest deterrent to it at this point you think?
Safety of build
Not wanting the peer pressure of the cut/ build to take up students time anymore ( was reading the ESPN article and it seemed to get pretty insane by the end).
Since a lot of liquor was involved in the burning do they just not care to deal with that part anymore anyways
Will say have been to the memorial it is a very well built and thought out one
This post was edited on 7/13/21 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:02 pm to TenTex
This is the most overrated series ever. We’ve seen FSU-Florida, Michigan-Ohio St, AU-Bama, Miami-FSU, OU-Nebraska, even OU-UT at least twice (more in some cases) be a key piece in the National Championship race with both teams having a legit shot.
UT-A&M has never meant shite in the national race. Texas hasn’t been consistent and A&M has (at being mediocre). It doesn’t mean shite. Not two fricks given if these 2 never play again.
UT-A&M has never meant shite in the national race. Texas hasn’t been consistent and A&M has (at being mediocre). It doesn’t mean shite. Not two fricks given if these 2 never play again.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:07 pm to Old Money
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The game could be back tomorrow if A&M really wanted it to be. But they don’t. They have the money to make it happen. And we learned from last season, schools can find an opponent and make travel plans within a week.
It's sad that A&M regularly ducks the chance
They're SEC, they shouldn't cower
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:17 pm to r2d2
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This is the most overrated series ever. We’ve seen FSU-Florida, Michigan-Ohio St, AU-Bama, Miami-FSU, OU-Nebraska, even OU-UT at least twice (more in some cases) be a key piece in the National Championship race with both teams having a legit shot.
UT-A&M has never meant shite in the national race. Texas hasn’t been consistent and A&M has (at being mediocre). It doesn’t mean shite. Not two fricks given if these 2 never play again.
Very stupid take. "National Significance" has never been a metric for any rivalry game. If it was, we should bin the Army Navy game ASAP. Ditto for Stanford/Cal or great USC/UCLA has rarely ever had national stakes
What made A&M/Texas a rivalry was its consistency over a 115 year period, the emotional investment of the various fanbases, and the generational linkages it created. I don't know how many families have sat through Thanksgiving afternoons or evenings watching this game.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:21 pm to TenTex
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When will it happen?
When aTm starts getting checks from the new tv cntracts(2024). Then they will realize they won this fight and it is time to continue the game.
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Though terms were not disclosed, ESPN’s annual fee is expected to be in the low $300 million range, according to Sports Business Journal, a considerable and expected increase from the $55 million per year that the conference receives from CBS
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:32 pm to BigBro
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A Missouri fan on here recently said that they are scheduled to play from 2025 to 2032.
They have a series scheduled 25 & 26 then again in 21 & 32. Looks like there’s no more excuses aggie.
Posted on 7/13/21 at 3:37 pm to turnpiketiger
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A Missouri fan on here recently said that they are scheduled to play from 2025 to 2032
They have a series scheduled 25 & 26 then again in 21 & 32. Looks like there’s no more excuses aggie.
You’re operating under the false premise that we’re concerned with what other programs do. Our history with UTex is a tad different than Mizzou’s.
Side note: Why do you call Texas A&M aggie?
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