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re: A veteran called Saban's show tonight to ask if he would ban NFL alums who won't stand...
Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:49 am to Tigerman97
Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:49 am to Tigerman97
they colluded to not sign him this year.
Do what?You got some type of evidence to support this?
Were they having conference call every week?
Says who?
Once again,who's calling for his arrest or denying his free speech these days?
Do what?You got some type of evidence to support this?
Were they having conference call every week?
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clearly has the physical talent to be a back up in the NFL.
Says who?
Once again,who's calling for his arrest or denying his free speech these days?
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:50 am to Fleurs
Why would anyone call and ask this question? All he's doing is asking for a rise out of someone and it's entirely unnecessary. frick that guy.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 9:58 am to Tigerman97
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He clearly has the physical talent to be a back up in the NFL.
Depends on how much money he's asking for.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:34 am to Fleurs
Pretty darn savvy response, really. Sabes didn't get to the top of the game by being stupid. He knows how to play the game.... and I don't mean (necessarily) football
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:39 am to Killean
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It's better to shite on the flag and wrap yourself in the Constitution than to wrap yourself in the flag and shite on the Constitution.
This. The flag is a symbol. The Constitution is the real thing that guarantees our rights. People don't know what America is.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:45 am to Tigerman97
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Well this devolved quickly.
If this thread was on the Poli board, you would've posted this 1/3 of the way through the first page.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:45 am to Fleurs
He gave a perfectly crafted answer for someone wanting to stay out of the political fray.
He basically avoided the issue entirely by saying he believes in freedom of speech. Not a single person on either side of the issue has contested whether the demonstration is protected by the First Amendment. Smart answer by Saban but it is about as vanilla and agnostic as could be on the subject.
He basically avoided the issue entirely by saying he believes in freedom of speech. Not a single person on either side of the issue has contested whether the demonstration is protected by the First Amendment. Smart answer by Saban but it is about as vanilla and agnostic as could be on the subject.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:46 am to Fleurs
Of course he is going to try to stay neutral and if and lean to the left. If you goes against the players the media will call him a racist anc that's not good for recruiting.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:50 am to AlaTiger
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This. The flag is a symbol. The Constitution is the real thing that guarantees our rights. People don't know what America is.
The Constitution is something the flag is a symbol for. The flag represents the country and it's ideals, laws, principles, etc. This isn't rocket science. Anyone can go and read Kaepernick's statements about his thoughts on this. It's crystal clear. He views the flag as a symbol of the country and its values (which is a totally basic and correct interpretation) and he thinks it's not worth honoring because of his own OPINION that this country's values are not worth honoring.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 10:55 am to Fleurs
As much as I love Saban as a coach, I wouldn't mind if he retired after the 2019 season to run for Senate in 2020. Some things are more important than football.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:10 am to Bench McElroy
I can dig it. He walked the hell out of that fine line.
Plus, he's 10 steps ahead of most college coaches who will see programs take a hit from recruiting if they say the wrong sht when issues like this are at the forefront. There will be some, it's coming. But, recruiting will be affected and so will their programs. I don't think Saban has a real prejudice bone in his body. I respect him for that.
Plus, he's 10 steps ahead of most college coaches who will see programs take a hit from recruiting if they say the wrong sht when issues like this are at the forefront. There will be some, it's coming. But, recruiting will be affected and so will their programs. I don't think Saban has a real prejudice bone in his body. I respect him for that.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:10 am to Tammany Tom
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I've always viewed standing with respect during the National Anthem as respecting every man and woman who has ever sacrificed their life,defending this nation, so that you and I can enjoy the freedoms that we enjoy in this country.
Kneeling during the National Anthem is the equivalent of going to someone's funeral (let's say your son or daughter or mother or father).
And during their funeral the person presiding over the service asks everyone to stand in a moment of silence and prayer to honor the life of your son/daughter/mother/father. While everyone else stands in respect, some a-hole takes a knee just down the row from you.
How do you feel about that? Are you a cuck if you get upset?
Some people kneel to pray.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:17 am to AUcs13
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I just know Saban is a liberal.
Meh...at the most he's a Joe Manchin style Democrat. Hardly a liberal.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:25 am to RD Dawg
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Do what?You got some type of evidence to support this?
Were they having conference call every week?
This seems silly to debate. He has a better TD to INT ratio than 4 of the top 10 QB's in the league. I didn't say he is being denied a starting position but when you think of the weakness of that position in the league he clearly is gifted enough to be a #2. Colluded implies something different than I meant. It is clear all the owners exercised their right to not give him a job despite at least 5 teams needing his talent in the #2 slot.
I never said anything about denying him his right or arrest...my comments are directed at those who in faux outrage act as if his actions are some how less American, etc...His actions even if I disagree with him define American liberties.
Within our liberties the appropriate way to counter protest is through reasonable and peaceful measures. I would argue all the weeping and gnashing of teeth is "unreasonable". Anyone respectfully disagreeing with him, as I, is reflective of the values this country is built upon. The problem in many cases as is true of this particular controversy, which was barely on the radar of most Americans and most guys in the NFL, prior to last week...starts at the top.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:25 am to AshLSU
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And the faces of the conservative Republican Party is Neo nazi supporters, fundamental Christian idiots, and old arse rich white men who are only in it to make them and their other old arse rich white male friends even more money.
I'm pro-free speech. I defend your right to spout mindless stupidity all you want.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:45 am to BamaGradinTn
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I'm pro-free speech. I defend your right to spout mindless stupidity all you want.
Except you have nothing that proves me wrong so there's that.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:51 am to RD Dawg
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You know why this is even being discussed?Because you guys inject politics into EVERYTHING.Why did ESPN become nothing more than the sports dept of MSNBC? Sports used to be an escape for this garbage but your side had to go ahead politicize this part of the culture.
My side? I'm not liberal or conservative. I tend to vote more liberal lately because the conservatives are all shite stuffers who only want to build war machines, bitch about other people getting equal right (but claim it's because their rights are being taken away), and feed into the concervative christian crapfest.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:51 am to AshLSU
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Except you have nothing that proves me wrong so there's that.
Your own statement is prove of your stupidity.
You said the faces of the GOP are neo-Nazi supporters. The burden is on you to provide that evidence, not for me to provide evidence that they're not. Go ahead. Name them and provide the evidence.
Your logic would be the same as me saying that you molest little boys, and then demanding you prove that you don't.
That's why your post was pure stupidity.
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Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:55 am to AshLSU
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I tend to vote more liberal lately because the conservatives are all shite stuffers who only want to build war machines, bitch about other people getting equal right (but claim it's because their rights are being taken away), and feed into the concervative christian crapfest.
You're such a nag/negative/patronizing poster on here. I don't even always disagree with you on the actual topics but you win no points with me simply by the way you express your thoughts. I think that was a big issue with the democratic party as a whole the last election and I don't think they've learned their lesson yet.
Posted on 9/29/17 at 11:56 am to RD Dawg
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They barely exist but if you want to think there's a boogie man around every street corner by my guesr.
That's what conservatives do. The fear of Muslims is laughable. You are more likely to win the lottery than be killed by a Muslim terrorist but that was all Chump and his cronies could talk about. Like it's really a threat.
You are more likely to be killed by a dog, vending machines, swings, or your own bed than a Muslim terrorist.
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