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A question about the way Nick Saban will be remembered

Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:46 pm
Posted by FourThreeForty
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Posted on 10/6/20 at 11:46 pm
Nick Saban was always known as the defense/smash mouth football guy....but at the end of the day, will that be the case? Since 2014, more often than not, Alabama’s offense is the talk of the town and not the defense. The outlier I’d say would be 2016 which ironically I’d argue is the best defense in the history of the game. So, if this trend of these high flying offenses he keeps putting on the field continues, will he be remembered down the road like we know him today?

I guess a good example would be if 20-30 years from now after he’d been retired a decade or 2, and you see a headline that looks like this:

“Nick Saban, coach of some of the greatest defenses ever, has some strong opinions on the latest rule changes in college football.”


Are media outlets more likely to refer to Nick Saban as an offensive coach or defensive one? I’ve wondered this recently given the types of teams we’ve put out on the field.

Posted by TigahJay
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:25 am to
“Nick Saban, that midget in the blue suit from the commercial with that duck”
Posted by GeauxTigerNation
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:35 am to
Joe Burrow neutering his defense is how ill remember him.

Not bashing your team, but it took the best QB college football has ever seen to get us over that fricking hump. Dude has built an empire.

He has adapted to offense though and its why hes succeeding.
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 12:36 am
Posted by 1BIGTigerFan
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:45 am to
All geniuses are strange.
Posted by atomic31
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:56 am to
I think he will exceed just being an offensive or defensive coach. His teams have always been at least good at both. Sometimes he's great at either. I think he'll just be remembered as a winner.

If I had to pick one though, I'd say defense. Saban has coached some of the best collegiate offenses of all time and one of the greatest QB's but those offenses never won a championship
Posted by Capstone2017
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 12:56 am to
Regardless he is the goat college coach. I do think he will be remembered as a great defensive coach that saw the changes to football coming and adapted to it. I do think his WR/RB groups will be just as legendary/looked back on as his DB/LBS. You could actually make the argument that his offensive players have done better in the pros than his defensive players.
Posted by LC412000
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 4:58 am to
Along the same lines as Bill Clinton

I did not have sex with that woman Ms Lewinsky

I will not be the coach at the university of Alabama
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 5:11 am to
quote:

Are media outlets more likely to refer to Nick Saban as an offensive coach or defensive one? I’ve wondered this recently given the types of teams we’ve put out on the field.


One of the greatest recruiters that ever coached. His team's consistency is otherworldly. The times he had his team at #1 and produced weekly with that bullseye on them is unprecedented. As is his NCs in such a short period of time. He absolutely dominates in a conference filled with the best talent.

Posted by ClaimToFame
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 5:21 am to
He'll be remembered as someone who changes the rules because he can't stop a certain type of offense.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 5:29 am to
quote:

He'll be remembered as someone who changes the rules because he can't stop a certain type of offense.




If you just refused to say dumb things, then nobody would know any better.
Posted by SidewalkTiger
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:09 am to
quote:

Are media outlets more likely to refer to Nick Saban as an offensive coach or defensive one?


1. Coach Sabah will need no moniker to tell people what he did.

2. Calling some a great "offensive coach" or the like is a nice way of saying the baw could only get it done on one side of the ball. Why do we refer to Lincoln Riley as a great "offensive coach?"
Posted by Commander Data
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Member since Dec 2016
7289 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 6:53 am to
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Sabah


You guys seriously don't understand how stupid and childish you look spelling Saban that way. It isn't edgy or funny. It just isn't a good look bro.
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:00 am to
quote:

“Nick Saban, that midget in the blue suit from the commercial with that duck”




Or, "one of the 5 worst coaches in the history of the Miami Dolphins".
Posted by SouthernInsanity
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:10 am to
He'll be remembered as the greatest college football coach w/the most Championships. Probably not many that have won championships at two major colleges.

And remembered for being pursued the most by NFL teams to return after his success at a1abama. Remembered for turning away the brinks trucks sent by Jerry Jones, LOL.
Posted by TiderNAL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:11 am to
quote:

Joe Burrow neutering his defense is how ill remember him.


To be fair, not a huge accomplishment. Probably the worst Saban defense at UA since 2007.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:13 am to
To give your question a real answer, serious fans will know his defensive prowess but he won’t be referred to that way. Most couldn’t tell you which side of the Bowden, Paterno, Bryant, Lombardi, etc were specialists of and the media never mentions it. The one exception to this is Bill Walsh but he’s a special case bc he revolutionized the way the game was played. Saban’s innovations are more how programs are run off the field.
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 7:13 am
Posted by tattoo
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Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:17 am to
He did a good job with the Dolphins. Took a 4 win team and won 9 games and became a dark horse for the SB the next year. NE fans were terrified. Won only 6 games because his starting QB was injured and had to play Cleo Lemon and Joey Harrington. They had the #4 defense in the NFL. The year after he left they went 1-15.

So, the years prior and after his tenure they were 5-27, the 2 years he was there they were 15-17. Saban was a difference maker in the NFL - he just preferred college and took a pay cut to come to Alabama who was obviously fortunate to get him.
This post was edited on 10/7/20 at 7:19 am
Posted by roadkill
East Coast, FL
Member since Oct 2008
1834 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:28 am to
Any honest reflection on Saban will also include this footnote:

Saban's departure from LSU, where he resurrected a moribund program, and his subsequent return as Alabama's coach, where his teams established a dynasty and competed for titles every year, drove many LSU fans to develop SDS (Saban Derangement Syndrome), a terminal mental illness that while serious to the afflicted, provided many hours and days of entertainment for Alabama fans.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
44721 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:32 am to
quote:

Why do we refer to Lincoln Riley as a great "offensive coach?"


Because he has an offensive background and his first few OU teams ran stuff that we've never seen before.
Posted by BLG
Georgia
Member since Mar 2018
7131 posts
Posted on 10/7/20 at 7:39 am to
that easy. He'll be remembered as the best ever college head coach or at least 1a and 1b with Paul Bryant.

He's also one of the best recruiters ever.
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