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re: 2011 Bama or 95 Nebraksa

Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:50 pm to
Posted by m2pro
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:50 pm to
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Grievous Angel



i'm not here to debate lunacy or w/e... i just think it's a FAIR argument (even from a hardcore Bama fan like me) to say I think one of my Bama teams would beat the better of the Nebraska teams that were in the Osborne dynasty.

but, i haven't really done a lot of 1 on 1 matchup research and i doubt i ever will.
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:52 pm to
Not much man, just getting by

And yeah, I want to look up how many pass attempts they had all year long. Even more fun is how many passes went more than five yards past the LOS. Can't have been more than a handful a game.
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 11:54 pm
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:53 pm to
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the 95 nebraska team crushed teams in its era whereas the 2011 bama team did not.


Better go back and check that again.

LINK


If you want to argue the one loss, fine. But that one loss was avenged. And anyone watching that game would agree that that was a pretty "crushing" 21-0.

Posted by Iona Fan Man
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:54 pm to
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:55 pm to
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WestCoastAg


Ok, yeah I could easily concede that from a national perception standpoint.. the Nebraska team "accomplished more" in terms of overall effect when you look at the resume.

And yes, I was mainly saying that I think our teams would probably beat the Nebraska teams.... because that makes my pride basically disgustingly thick for even my own standards! But damnit, who doesn't want to think of their team as the GOAT, if they can!

HOWEVER... I still maintain that I believe their schedules to have been less difficult than ours. I think southern football has proven itself over a long period of time to have churned out a more dominant product. I think that back in the 90's it was only truly becoming a fully understood thing.

Take Ole Miss for example, this year. They were a 6-6 team going into bowl week... and regardless of that W-L or "rank" that they were, they were a tough arse team this year. They played physical as hell, and were honestly my favorite "other" team to watch this year other than A&M. Ole Miss isn't going to make a schedule look hard, but you go play teams like them for your "easy" games, and see how your team's W/L column looks.
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 11:57 pm
Posted by Ross
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:56 pm to
Quick glance at some stats show that Nebraska had three times as many rushing attempts as passing attempts and was rocking 400 yards/game on the ground to only 150 through the air.

Best rushing attack of all time, honestly.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28601 posts
Posted on 1/10/13 at 11:58 pm to
Yeah, 350+ a game is basically absurd no matter who you're rushing against. BUT just for pride's sake, I ardently believe that if Bama rushed for as many attempts as Nebraska did, that we'd probably have a similar amount of YPG avg.

Yes, gumps gotta gump... but i'm riiiiiiiiiiite.
This post was edited on 1/10/13 at 11:59 pm
Posted by Ross
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:10 am to
Your 2011 team is the best bet out of the three national title winning squads.

2009 and 2012 were kind of ho-hum national title teams (if that can exist?). Maybe ho-hum isn't the right word, but they weren't all-time great teams.

2011 was one of the elite teams of college football history.
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 12:14 am
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:14 am to
(Correct me if I'm wrong, but) I think our offense is the #1 overall offense in Bama's history this year. Even if we've never had an offense capable of Spurrier type numbers, that's saying something for a top 10 team of all time. And this defense was still super dominant, with some weakness around the edges, especially when coupled with this new aged super QB athletes like Newton and Manziel.

I've been trying to decide... WAS 2011 that much better than this year's just because of the more effective D? <yes prob... but man, this year's offense just felt considerably more dominant and fun to watch>
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 12:15 am
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
28601 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 12:16 am to
hey man, i'm headed to sleep. but i'll check out whatever responses you make in this thread in the morning. let me know if you dig up anything else cool from the nebraska team or comparative type stuff.

g'night.
Posted by aggressor
Austin, TX
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:01 am to
'95 Nebraska was a far more dominant team. A big part of that was all year you had 2 teams that stood above the rest in Florida and Nebraska. They were both dominant teams and Florida was in the midst of all their SEC Titles under Spurrier and won the NC the following year. Florida was undefeated with 3 wins over Top 10 Teams and had barely been challenged all season.

Thus you had a true #1 vs #2 matchup for the NC game. No one was arguing that any other teams would beat either of them. Then Nebraska proceeded to absolutely crush Florida in that game 62-24. Nebraska flat out made Florida quit, highlighted by this play: Tommy Frazier's 75 yard TD run

Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
15365 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 1:21 am to
Nebraska 95 I've said many times is the best team I've ever seen on a college football field.

Nothing has happened that would change that opinion.
Posted by proudertider
mandeville
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 2:11 am to
With all the references to the DynAsty I got interested in NE myself and did some research before the big game.

As others, I just assumed "Big Eight = weak schedule." There's some truth to the assumption. But those Nebraska teams were just so dominant--especially the 95 team. The way they destroyed Florida was truly spectacular.

However, I still contend that in 94 & 97, NE would have lost a game or two if facing the rigors of a SEC type schedule. For example, in 94, they only beat Wyoming by 10 (then a 1-aa school) and Miami by a TD.

The only "tough stretch" that 94 team had was the last 2 games of the season: OK and Miami. OK stunk at the time, and Miami wasn't until more than a month later.

95 team demolished everybody. They would have killed the SEC that year. And that hurts to admit cause I remember hating them for all the attention they got in back to back seasons. But after they finished raping Florida, there was just no denying they were best in the nation, including anything the SEC had to offer.

97 was second year in Big 12. They were fairly dominant, stronger as year went on, but only beat CO by 3 pts. They killed TN in the orange bowl (42-17), but it would have been nice to have seen them playing MIch. for all the marbles.

TL, DR:
95 would have beaten anybody anywhere. 94 & 97 would not have stood up to the rigors of a modern SEC schedule, plus SECCG, plus BCSCG and be undefeated.
Posted by stho381
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4628 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 2:16 am to
2011 Bama finished 12-1 and second in the SECW


It's hard to argue against '95 Nebraska when they went undefeated, 12-0, and their closest game was 14 points and they beat 4 top 10 teams in their last 6 games with score margins of 24, 23, 38, 38 points.

'95 Nebraska hands down was a better team during their time than the 2011 Bama team was.
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 2:18 am
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/11/13 at 3:17 am to
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HOWEVER... I still maintain that I believe their schedules to have been less difficult than ours. I think southern football has proven itself over a long period of time to have churned out a more dominant product. I think that back in the 90's it was only truly becoming a fully understood thing.
you mean the 4 teams they played that ended up being ranked in the top 10 in the final polls? or the florida team they obliterated in their bowl?
This post was edited on 1/11/13 at 3:19 am
Posted by harmonics
Mars Hotel
Member since Jan 2010
18615 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 3:53 am to
I just think it's funny that we are now resorting to greatest teams of all-time that could beat Alabama now. That alone speaks volumes.
Posted by Cdawg
TigerFred's Living Room
Member since Sep 2003
59448 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 4:09 am to
quote:

Nebraska 95 I've said many times is the best team I've ever seen on a college football field.

Nothing has happened that would change that opinion.
Posted by Florida225
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
2833 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 7:09 am to
LOL at this comparison.
Posted by Beer Bryant
In a Hidden Bunker
Member since Jan 2012
8792 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 7:15 am to
Take a look at their rosters. Bama is MUCH bigger and stronger than that team was.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18981 posts
Posted on 1/11/13 at 7:21 am to
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You mean the 1994 team that beat 0-10 Iowa State by 16 points, scored 13 points against 6-6 Oklahoma, and gave up 32 points to Wyoming? That Nebraska team?
Yup. 2011 Alabama shouldn't even be compared to Nebraska's undefeated national championship teams. They should be compared to 93 or 99 Nebraska teams
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