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re: 1995 Nebraska or 2001 Miami vs. 2019 LSU using 1995 rules (Targeting, etc)
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:07 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:07 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Bruh....LSU would donkey punch the 1995 Cornhuskers. Because nutrition. Exercise. Scheme. And size on the LOS.
Tough to get the option going when your 280 pound guards get bull rushed 5 yards into the backfield every play.
Tough to get the option going when your 280 pound guards get bull rushed 5 yards into the backfield every play.
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Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:15 pm to Enos Burdette
It doesn't work that way. Nick Saban HATES playing option teams because of all the cut blocking. Those big guys would be worrying about their knees the whole game. Technique and execution is the great equalizer when it comes to playing those teams.
Plus, there's a lot of double team blocking and people they don't even have to block. If you are not VERY disciplined, you get abused. You get too aggressive and you find yourself grabbing air while the dive back runs right past you. Or you hit him and the QB keeps, and so on.
Plus, there's a lot of double team blocking and people they don't even have to block. If you are not VERY disciplined, you get abused. You get too aggressive and you find yourself grabbing air while the dive back runs right past you. Or you hit him and the QB keeps, and so on.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:16 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:18 pm to Dude88
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Dude88
You're literally the only human alive that thinks that.
How's that feel?
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:19 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
LSU obviously. The guys on the other two teams are in their 40s now.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:20 pm to antibarner
Cool. I got LSU by 21. Minimum.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:22 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
'95 Nebraska
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:24 pm to PeeJayScammedGT
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I think the 2001-02 Canes (maybe 2000-01) was the best TEAM in CFB History even though they didn't have the best "team stats" in CFB History
They almost lost to BC.
Ed Reed bailed them out by taking the ball from his DL and returning it for a TD.
2001 Miami is probably the most talented team ever but dont think they're best CFB team.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:29 pm to Enos Burdette
Their defense would have problems without a doubt. So would LSU. They don't see that kind of offense executed at that level. It would probably be a high scoring game.
The worry LSU would have would be scoring too quick. Nebraska would have matchup problems and would likely give up some quick scores, and that ground game would tell on the LSU defense in the second half. It could end up being a strange shootout.
You think John Rhys Plumlee was a handful? Tommie Frazier was poison.
The worry LSU would have would be scoring too quick. Nebraska would have matchup problems and would likely give up some quick scores, and that ground game would tell on the LSU defense in the second half. It could end up being a strange shootout.
You think John Rhys Plumlee was a handful? Tommie Frazier was poison.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:33 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:34 pm to antibarner
Out of curiosity you do know that Nebraska’s offense was I power and more midline than veer? Read a player, pitch off another, double team block linemen and rub off into backers. There wasn’t as much cut blocking with Nebraska option as opposed to Georgia Southern or Georgia Tech options. It was also bunched up in an I as compared to modern spread power options which made passing kind of difficult. That would not, IMO, fare well against a defense as big and fast as LSU.
Their big DT package would spell trouble in the middle and cause a pile which takes away your inside/midline plays because there’s nowhere for them to go. You’ve then got a QB and trailing runner trying to run around a pile and teams very good at setting the edge and with any lateral speed beat that because you’ve killed the read, flow, and are now absent blockers.
I’m not saying Nebraska wouldn’t score, but that offense just wouldn’t keep up with Burreaux and company.
Their big DT package would spell trouble in the middle and cause a pile which takes away your inside/midline plays because there’s nowhere for them to go. You’ve then got a QB and trailing runner trying to run around a pile and teams very good at setting the edge and with any lateral speed beat that because you’ve killed the read, flow, and are now absent blockers.
I’m not saying Nebraska wouldn’t score, but that offense just wouldn’t keep up with Burreaux and company.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 7:36 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:38 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
95 Nebraska is the only right answer. Don't fool yourself, this year LSU was a great team, but let's not be stupid here.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 7:49 pm to antibarner
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You think John Rhys Plumlee was a handful? Tommie Frazier was poison.
Lawrence Phillips was a beast along with Frazier.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:06 pm to Pdubntrub
Phillips is who I'm talking about. '95 fast and '19 fast are much different. The only 40 time I could find on him was 4.54. Marcel Brooks ran 4.60 as a high schooler.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:10 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
You can't really compare, even against teams that recently - because rules have drastically changed the nature of the game.
People wanted points, so the rules were changed in favor of scoring lots of points.
People wanted points, so the rules were changed in favor of scoring lots of points.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:10 pm to Pdubntrub
Green ran 4.44 so you would be correct about him. But I'm sure Queen isn't far off from that
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:33 pm to 5iveEuax4eaux
It isn't just raw speed. If that were the case, Usain Bolt would be a HOF running back. Najee Harris is not a sprinter but he had a pretty solid day vs LSU as I recall.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:43 pm to Enos Burdette
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Those big boys would have been watching their knees.
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The blocking is primarily man-on-man but also included a lot of chop blocks. When the NCAA banned this technique in 1980, Nebraska continued to utilize the cut block (where a defender is not engaged with a teammate).
Those big boys would have been watching their knees.
This post was edited on 1/14/20 at 8:45 pm
Posted on 1/14/20 at 8:58 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
My take on this is different the most...
I actually think college athletes today are generally stronger and faster now than in 95. I also think the game is more complex and demanding mentally than in 95. So I think not only this LSU team but several other 2019 teams would beat the 95 Nebraska team.
I think the performance/complexity gap is smaller between 2019 and the 2001 Miami team. I would be more worried about losing to that team.
I actually think college athletes today are generally stronger and faster now than in 95. I also think the game is more complex and demanding mentally than in 95. So I think not only this LSU team but several other 2019 teams would beat the 95 Nebraska team.
I think the performance/complexity gap is smaller between 2019 and the 2001 Miami team. I would be more worried about losing to that team.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 9:04 pm to CGSC Lobotomy
Average Nebraska score 53.2
Average opponent score 15.25
Average LSU score 48.4
Average opponent score 21.86.
I saw Nebraska play and they were bad arse. I saw LSU play and they were bad arse also.
Different eras so I don't know. Nebraska ground your arse down. Lsu would pass over you.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 9:19 pm to Pdubntrub
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Ahman Green was super fast not to mention Lawrence Phillips. I don't think you've watched 95 Nebraska. They had studs all over the field
I read once that 27 players on that squad went on to the NFL. The notion that talent and physical prowess was lacking compared to today's squad is silly.
Posted on 1/14/20 at 9:21 pm to antibarner
Interesting read.
I seem to remember Nebraska’s blocking’s scheme predicated around getting to your spot and beating your man more than cut blocks. Lot of reach blocking as in reach your guy first and drive him. I do believe poor form form a tackler would be death with that kind of scheme. Did they run a lot of traps and counters?
Anyway, I still just don’t see it keeping up with Burrow and company.
I seem to remember Nebraska’s blocking’s scheme predicated around getting to your spot and beating your man more than cut blocks. Lot of reach blocking as in reach your guy first and drive him. I do believe poor form form a tackler would be death with that kind of scheme. Did they run a lot of traps and counters?
Anyway, I still just don’t see it keeping up with Burrow and company.
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