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re: 1-7 scheduling model gaining momentum per SI’s Ross Dellinger
Posted on 6/6/22 at 2:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 6/6/22 at 2:59 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Why can’t those games be played OOC? Serious question.
Because they are CONFERERNCE games and should be played as such. Not a meaningless game that has no effect on the conference. It needs to have an impact on the SEC.
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Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:01 pm to TouchdownTony
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Why can’t those games be played OOC? Serious question.
Because they are CONFERERNCE games and should be played as such. Not a meaningless game that has no effect on the conference. It needs to have an impact on the SEC.
Agreed. It is kind of difficult to play the game and ignore the result.
Hell... when a team has wins stripped from their record, it isnt like anyone forgot who actually won the games. Winning matters.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:23 pm to lsufball19
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yeah, and I guess with the newbies, we can add A&M/Texas and Texas/OU to the list. There's no way you have those three teams in the same conference and those games not played every year.
Yeah, the SEC wasn't salivating at the opportunity to bring in Texas and Oklahoma just so they could avoid playing an annual storyline game.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:25 pm to Draconian Sanctions
LSU v. A&M
OU V. Texas
Mizzou v. Arkansas
UK v. USCe
Bama v. Auburn
Ole Miss v. State
UGA v. UF
Vandy v. Tennessee
Book it.
OU V. Texas
Mizzou v. Arkansas
UK v. USCe
Bama v. Auburn
Ole Miss v. State
UGA v. UF
Vandy v. Tennessee
Book it.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:25 pm to TrumpedUpVol
eh. if anything they may be pushing for the 8 game schedule as UT got forced into giving tech a long term OOC series and OU is going to want to keep bedlam going
Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:35 pm to WestCoastAg
do we all have to play the same number of SEC games? Back in the day, they did not. Auburn could play UGA and Bama and then 7 games. Same for UT and Bama.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:42 pm to WestCoastAg
quote:again, go 3-6 with every team having a permanent P5 OOC opponent.
if anything they may be pushing for the 8 game schedule as UT got forced into giving tech a long term OOC series and OU is going to want to keep bedlam going
Alternate your P5 OOC game to where you play it at home in the years you play 5 road SEC games.
Every school ends up with 7 home games, 5 of them having some actual fan interest, every single season.
And you still play home and away against every team in the conference every four years.
This is the way.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:43 pm to allin2010
This is about negotiating with Disney/ESPN to get the contract money increased for providing one more week of strong SEC matchups. The same rivalry games you all mention as going away in a 1/7 format are very valuable potential TV audiences. When both sides of the table agree to raising the annual contract monies, we will see an announcement of a 3/6 schedule.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:46 pm to allin2010
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do we all have to play the same number of SEC games?
I'm not sure if the NCAA specifically mandates this (I have a feeling they might, somewhere deep inside the rulebook), but there's no way that the modern-day SEC is going to permit an imbalanced number of conference games given the headaches it would create for determining who goes to Atlanta.
I also hate the idea of playing conference opponents OOC, which I recognize happens in the Pac-12 and ACC fairly often but just completely sucks in practice. I can understand the teams with ACC/Big XII permanent rivals being apprehensive about a nine-game schedule, but that's all the more reason for the SEC to mandate schools playing one or two P5 OOC games every season.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:55 pm to Cuthy
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This is about negotiating with Disney/ESPN to get the contract money increased for providing one more week of strong SEC matchups.
Well that is wrong. Half of the teams are below average. And then you get more games of a below average team vs a below average team.
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The same rivalry games you all mention as going away in a 1/7 format are very valuable potential TV audiences. When both sides of the table agree to raising the annual contract monies, we will see an announcement of a 3/6 schedule.
Secondly, when you have a 9th conference game the entire inventory of games is less.
Vs an OOC opponent, those 16 teams would play 16 games. Versus in conference opponents, you are squeezing that down into 8 games.
You are literally pissing away an inventory of 8 games for television/home stadiums (potentially).
Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:56 pm to TrumpedUpVol
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I can understand the teams with ACC/Big XII permanent rivals being apprehensive about a nine-game schedule,
I can't. They ought to want to play their rivals every season, no matter what. If not, are they really rivals?
Posted on 6/6/22 at 3:58 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Tennessee sucked so much in football they big 6 status. Impressive.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 4:09 pm to meansonny
I have no clue as to what led you to such a statement. So what that half the games are not so interesting- I’m guessing we could include Vandy vs anybody, Missouri, Kentucky, too. But, reading back thru the games that would Not occur every year - Ok vs Texas, Ga vs Aub, Ala vs Tenn, LSU vs Ole Miss to name a few - slot those in on that additional week of SEC National broadcasts. Very valuable programming! The SEC commissioner and school Presidents are not going to just add that to the TV rights (had they announced at Destin last week) without getting something ($$$$) in return.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 4:10 pm to meansonny
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You are literally pissing away an inventory of 8 games for television/home stadiums (potentially).
Casualties of the nine-game schedule aren't going to be Alabama vs. Notre Dame or Texas vs. Ohio State, it'll be Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee Martin and South Carolina vs. Furman. I can assure you, the ninth conference game is worth a lot more than the annual cupcake and the only reasons said cupcake involve winning percentage and bowl eligibility.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 4:17 pm to TrumpedUpVol
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You are literally pissing away an inventory of 8 games for television/home stadiums (potentially).
Casualties of the nine-game schedule aren't going to be Alabama vs. Notre Dame or Texas vs. Ohio State, it'll be Vanderbilt vs. Tennessee Martin and South Carolina vs. Furman. I can assure you, the ninth conference game is worth a lot more than the annual cupcake and the only reasons said cupcake involve winning percentage and bowl eligibility.
This is what blows my mind.
No one trusts their own AD, so they would rather give scheduling control to the conference and then bitch about how the conference schedules games (stacking tough games back to back, when the opposing team has a bye week before their game, etc..).
UGA would be playing Vanderbilt, Ole Miss, Miss St, South Carolina, etc.. instead of Clemson and Notre Dame because we have Georgia Tech.
If you dont want crappy games, dont schedule them.
UGA regularly schedules 2 P5 opponents in the same season.
UGA has scheduled 3 P5 opponents in the same season in the past and has that same type of scheduling on the books 3 more times in the next decade.
Hold your ADs accountable. Otherwise they will still schedule 2 crap games OOC and on top of your 1 P5 (which you should be doing already).
It blows my mind that teams would rather a mindless rotation of ho hums instead of actually going out and facing big name programs.
Posted on 6/6/22 at 4:21 pm to TrumpedUpVol
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. I can assure you, the ninth conference game is worth a lot more than the annual cupcake and the only reasons said cupcake involve winning percentage and bowl eligibility.
Here is what you are missing.
A cupcake by definition is a Home Only game. No return visit.
You give up a home game every other year with the 9th conference game.
Your AD will still hold onto those cupcake games to fill out the home slate. If your AD schedules crap right now, what makes you think they will change with a 9 game conference schedule.
Tell your AD to put his big boy pants on and wade into the deep end of OOC games. Having 4 to choose from still allows for 2 quality hand picked opponents and 2 cupcakes to fill out the home only slate
Posted on 6/6/22 at 4:23 pm to RT1941
quote:I hope this is the case
Does anyone think some folks were yanking Dellinger's chain on the movement to a 1-7 format?
Posted on 6/6/22 at 4:31 pm to dcbl
My guess is pretty much all the teams want an 8 game conference schedule. Certain coaches might be saying otherwise but that’s just to show a perception that the majority of their fan base want to hear.
SEC is dominating the playoffs as it stands. And there’s no reason to make a change that could affect that.
I have no idea why they don’t just do a 2-6.
SEC is dominating the playoffs as it stands. And there’s no reason to make a change that could affect that.
I have no idea why they don’t just do a 2-6.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 6/6/22 at 4:36 pm to Whentheleveebreaks
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SEC is dominating the playoffs as it stands. And there’s no reason to make a change that could affect that.
We played a 10-game SEC season just two years ago and we had two serious playoff contenders until Florida threw the shoe
Good teams will always emerge regardless of how many SEC games are played
Posted on 6/6/22 at 4:36 pm to meansonny
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Tell your AD to put his big boy pants on and wade into the deep end of OOC games. Having 4 to choose from still allows for 2 quality hand picked opponents and 2 cupcakes to fill out the home only slate
Most SEC teams opt for one P5 opponent and three cupcakes. I recognize that Georgia almost always has two P5 opponents, but that's not the reality of the situation year-in and year-out for the conference as a whole.
If you drop from four OOC games to three, the portion of the conference that isn't Georgia won't be cutting that P5 game and instead would drop a cupcake (especially if mandated by the conference). This scenario where even a low-tier ninth conference game (which would always be one of the protected rivalries in the 3/6/6 format, so typically a game of some merit) is less meaningful/valuable than the dropped OOC matchup just doesn't exist in reality.
This post was edited on 6/6/22 at 4:37 pm
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