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re: Who would you hire to replace Luke?
Posted on 9/25/18 at 12:44 pm to Insideradvantage
Posted on 9/25/18 at 12:44 pm to Insideradvantage
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Let's just say OM wanted Freeze back and offered him the job. Do y'all think he'd take it?
That is a good question, but I would like to find out lol.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 12:51 pm to GoldenReb
No-he wouldn't.
He got sold out by his dream job. He'll let 2-4 more years pass and accept a job as a O coordinator at a mid major, and then work his way up to a head coach at a mid major. He may work his way back to FBS in the next 15 years.
He got sold out by his dream job. He'll let 2-4 more years pass and accept a job as a O coordinator at a mid major, and then work his way up to a head coach at a mid major. He may work his way back to FBS in the next 15 years.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:48 pm to DownSouthJukin
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He got sold out by his dream job. He'll let 2-4 more years pass and accept a job as a O coordinator at a mid major, and then work his way up to a head coach at a mid major. He may work his way back to FBS in the next 15 years.
Yeah, I am doubtful he would come back either. Still, I would like to find out lol.
I am certain he will come back. I think it will be faster than what you laid out though. I think he will either take a head coaching job at a mid major or an O-coordinator position at a top school in the next year, two max. I think he will be a power five head coach again within the next 5-7 years. I hope to God it is not in the SEC West (unless Ole Miss of course).
Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:50 pm to Insideradvantage
In a heartbeat. Have you heard any of his speeches? He is basically begging for a second chance
Posted on 9/25/18 at 1:51 pm to Henry Jones Jr
I'm sure that if Bjork was gone, that would sweeten the deal.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 7:35 pm to Landmass
AD cant handle Freeze tweets and comments. He said those things not Bjork. Having top guys committed doesnt amount to a hill of beans. He went after great players and had NO backup plans if they fell thru. This is Luke first full class. How can one crucify his recruiting when he hasn't even finished recruiting this year. We currently have 6 or 7 4 star players committed. Any other year we look at that is in a good spot.
No folks aren't throwing problems at Freeze, hes getting a free ride. Everyone is blaming McGriff and Luke even though everyone is aware the talent freeze left on defense is abysmal.
Last season we had a 1k rusher and are on pace for another this season. You tell me the last time we had back to back 1k rushers. Luke was the OL coach and recruited these guys.
People that want Freeze back as coach are delusional. Freeze did no better than Nutt. Won two years all the while losing games he shouldn't have and not having any idea how to build and retain a program. Then experiencing horrible season after. Nutt had two, Freeze was about to have his 2011 year last year. Both were saved a year before by very good QBs.
I'm not endorsing Luke. Hiring Freeze would be extremely laughable.
No folks aren't throwing problems at Freeze, hes getting a free ride. Everyone is blaming McGriff and Luke even though everyone is aware the talent freeze left on defense is abysmal.
Last season we had a 1k rusher and are on pace for another this season. You tell me the last time we had back to back 1k rushers. Luke was the OL coach and recruited these guys.
People that want Freeze back as coach are delusional. Freeze did no better than Nutt. Won two years all the while losing games he shouldn't have and not having any idea how to build and retain a program. Then experiencing horrible season after. Nutt had two, Freeze was about to have his 2011 year last year. Both were saved a year before by very good QBs.
I'm not endorsing Luke. Hiring Freeze would be extremely laughable.
Posted on 9/25/18 at 8:37 pm to Doresrules
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People that want Freeze back as coach are delusional. Freeze did no better than Nutt.
No offense, but you are clearly the one who is delusional. Nutt was 24-26 and 10-22 in conference. Freeze was 39-25 and 19-21 in conference. Nutt lived off O's recruits and left a bare cupboard. Freeze built the program from a shambles and left Luke w/ a lot of talent on O.
That being said, we aren't hiring Freeze. First step though is to fire McGriff. Our players can't even tackle FCS scat backs.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 12:18 am to rebelrouser
I hate you for making defend Houston Nutt of all people but he did not leave the cupboard bare like Freeze’s narrative was the whole first year. All his contributors in 2012 all the way to CJ in 2015 were from the 2010 and 2011 classes when we sucked(and subsequently got snitched on by Delvin Jones). It was fake news to say that Freeze was left with no athletes especially on defense. He never would’ve won 7 games if Mike Marry doesn’t gray shirt and Nutt doesn’t take a flyer on Denzel. Bird was undersized but was a stud for us most of the time.
Nutt was a lazy pos and didn’t care about us at all and then had the balls to screw us again seven years later. He gave up on all those kids he recruited and it’s telling nobody will hire him after what he did to us and Arkansas. He’s a snake. I hope all the bad things in life happen to him and only him. I will get arrested for assault if I ever pass him in public and I hear his ridiculous accent talking about catfishing in the delta hehe but he didn’t screw freeze on talent.
You post Freeze’s record and it further proves how overrated he is because he had left over defensive talent to build on and still failed. He had a losing conference record and lost to every good non con we played. Also having the worst bowl loss in our history and worst egg bowl loss in Oxford ever coupled with his terrible assistant hires Luke included further illustrate his incompetence and that’s not even getting into his personal stuff. Heck Nutt had a thousand yard rusher. Matt Luke is about to do it back to back years. How many did offensive guru freeze have?
Nutt was a lazy pos and didn’t care about us at all and then had the balls to screw us again seven years later. He gave up on all those kids he recruited and it’s telling nobody will hire him after what he did to us and Arkansas. He’s a snake. I hope all the bad things in life happen to him and only him. I will get arrested for assault if I ever pass him in public and I hear his ridiculous accent talking about catfishing in the delta hehe but he didn’t screw freeze on talent.
You post Freeze’s record and it further proves how overrated he is because he had left over defensive talent to build on and still failed. He had a losing conference record and lost to every good non con we played. Also having the worst bowl loss in our history and worst egg bowl loss in Oxford ever coupled with his terrible assistant hires Luke included further illustrate his incompetence and that’s not even getting into his personal stuff. Heck Nutt had a thousand yard rusher. Matt Luke is about to do it back to back years. How many did offensive guru freeze have?
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 12:19 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 1:12 am to DMagic
I guess you forget just how horrible the entire team was the last 2 seasons under Nutt. You're just wrong... wrong.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 8:44 am to Doresrules
I absolutely hated the Luke hire. It was lazy, and I do believe there were coaches who would have been happy to come to Ole Miss, despite the sanctions.
That said, he's our coach this year. Now you said,
I blame Luke and McGriff for what actually is under their direct control. It's great that they make halftime adjustments. But, those adjustments mean little if you're down 49-7 at the half.
That said, he's our coach this year. Now you said,
quote:That is true. We are. Why? The team is undisciplined, unprepared, and can't tackle worth a damn. Those are coaching issues, not talent issues. So it doesn't matter what Freeze left behind or what he did not. What matters is that the team has shown little progress over 16 games in those areas. You don't need a full recruiting year to ensure the team is prepared for a game. You don't need a full year to teach how to tackle.
Everyone is blaming McGriff and Luke
I blame Luke and McGriff for what actually is under their direct control. It's great that they make halftime adjustments. But, those adjustments mean little if you're down 49-7 at the half.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:28 am to DMagic
quote:Beat Texas in Austin, beat Oklahoma State in the Sugar Bowl, beat the Georgia Tech team that steamrolled State in the Orange Bowl. But I guess when half the team was injured and we got beat by TCU totally negates all the other wins.
lost to every good non con we played.
Yeah he totally sucked against non conference teams.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 9:29 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 9:57 am to Henry Jones Jr
He got humiliated at home by Texas. Lost by two TD's to Memphis . Choked against Florida State who was starting a true freshman quarterback in the first game of the season... He didn't exactly kill it out of conference either.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:39 am to HYDRebs
Texas way outmatched us in his first year. It wasn't even close but the team kept fighting. He went to their place and beat them the following year. That's quite an accomplishment.
As for Memphis, our OL had an absolutely terrible game so the QB was under constant pressure and we couldn't run it at all. Who was the OL coach again?
As for Memphis, our OL had an absolutely terrible game so the QB was under constant pressure and we couldn't run it at all. Who was the OL coach again?
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:09 am to Landmass
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we couldn't run it at all. Who was the OL coach again?
But it's totally okay because he loves Ole Miss.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:27 am to Henry Jones Jr
You mean the 8-5 Texas team? The 7-6 GT team? Those are good wins? I’ll give him OK State so one good non con. He’s awesome. Injury excuses are the easiest way to tell someone is losing an argument. Name a year where we didn’t have a key starter injured? TCU we were relatively healthy headed into the game besides Laqoun. Freeze didn’t enforce curfew night before and all the guys got blitzed the night before then the game plan sucked again. How exactly is that not on the head coach? He didn’t fire Womack when he should have and then made a crappy follow up hire. Irrefutable evidence.
Also who do you think was answering the phone when we got those sanctions(which used Freeze’s own words against us in the ruling!) to be our coach? Anybody with eyes could see when ole miss mouthpieces like the library and Funky’s were holding we stand with Luke parties two weeks before he was hired what the sanctions were. It was classic spin 101 and apparently you bought it if you think that we only hired Luke to keep players. Nobody was coming.
Also who do you think was answering the phone when we got those sanctions(which used Freeze’s own words against us in the ruling!) to be our coach? Anybody with eyes could see when ole miss mouthpieces like the library and Funky’s were holding we stand with Luke parties two weeks before he was hired what the sanctions were. It was classic spin 101 and apparently you bought it if you think that we only hired Luke to keep players. Nobody was coming.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 11:32 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 11:40 am to Landmass
So wait Matt Luke is to blame for us running Robert Nkemdiche and our defense getting Paxton Lynch a pro contract with their performance? When did we run the ball well under Freeze? So Luke is to blame there but he doesn’t get credit for Phillips or Wilkins as HC? I knew you were an unoriginal and unfunny troll but I didn’t realize you were actually special needs
Also I could pull a Henry and point out that our starting center got injured that game too who was also Laremy and Fahn Cooper’s(who was a plan C when we missed on Avery Gennessy and Kareem Are) backup and we still ran our starting DT because Freeze had no idea how to run the ball.
Also I could pull a Henry and point out that our starting center got injured that game too who was also Laremy and Fahn Cooper’s(who was a plan C when we missed on Avery Gennessy and Kareem Are) backup and we still ran our starting DT because Freeze had no idea how to run the ball.
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 11:44 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 2:07 pm to DMagic
Stop arguing about football.
Both schools suck and everything sucks and football is stupid.
Both schools suck and everything sucks and football is stupid.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 3:19 pm to RebelTheBear
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Larry Fedora/Mike Bobo?
Sweet Jesus...
Posted on 9/26/18 at 6:38 pm to DMagic
When will the next OM coach beat a Saban Bama team twice or any Bama team for that matter? It won't be Luke that's for damn sure. We took a huge flier on an unproven coach that had to come in and clean up the Nutt mess and it paid off big time. If you think Freeze did nothing, you should be screaming for Luke to get canned today because he will not equal the Freeze years. I hope he does, but i'm not seeing it. Bowling 4 out of 5 of your first years with a Peach and Sugar? I'll take that. If Luke does that 2019-2024, I will tip my cap to the man.
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