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Posted on 7/12/22 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 12:33 pm to
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Baylor (who had 12 4stars) beat our arse.


I chalk most of that up to losing our starting QB. And we did have the ball late third or early fourth down 7-0 so certainly not an arse whipping.
Posted by ABearsFanNMS
Formerly of tLandmass now in Texas
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 7/12/22 at 1:21 pm to
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I chalk most of that up to losing our starting QB. And we did have the ball late third or early fourth down 7-0 so certainly not an arse whipping.


And loosing key logs in the OL and it was rather obvious Libby didn’t game plan worth a shite.
Posted by SquarePizzaRebel
Atlanta, GA
Member since Nov 2013
2360 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 6:46 pm to
Who runs the regular season football thread and when do we boot that up?
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3725 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:35 pm to
Baylor’s D Line whipped Ole Miss O Line
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
6868 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 8:48 pm to
^^^ This part was very true.
Posted by arsewipe
USA
Member since Jan 2021
93 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:11 pm to
Not sure but in my opinion this is gonna be the most talented we have been since Freeze. Don't think that's a necessarily hot take. While it sucks that we don't have a starting QB (think if Matt was a year younger and had to stay this year?) we at least know Dart is talented as hell and Luke is, if nothing, solid. LB is the only other position we will probably take a step back in. Other than that:

Secondary returns starters, added good transfer and HS depth

D Line lost sam but returns quality starters plus Pegues who arguably may be our most important defender this year

O Line returns quality starters and added some solid depth in portal

We have a top 5 running back room in the country, period. Could be the best depending on how Judkins looks (I'm expecting him to fricking eat)

Receiver room lost Braylon and Drum, but we got some really solid transfers and have some up and coming guys from HS. God dammit if we had deion smith...

Trigg is going to be a nightmare. Casey Kelly is underrated?

Don't like to count my chickens before they hatch but I'll do that. 4-0 is easily achievable. Kentucky will be a challenge, but thank god its at home. That's gonna be a lot harder game than people think. Then Vandy. Then Auburn, who we perennially struggle against (you would have to think we get them this year considering everything they lost). IF, and I'm saying IF, we win all those games...we go into Death Valley at 7-0.

and i'll leave it at that.

Most excited I've been for a season in a while. But like I said, can't count chickens especially as an Ole Miss fan. And especially because the second half of our season is going to be fricking brutal. But damn we have a lot to look forward to
Posted by arsewipe
USA
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:13 pm to
this team will go as the QB room goes. If someone comes out and takes the job, we will be really fricking good. If not, could be a long season down the stretch
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:49 pm to
Randy is a national champ now got to be him
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30162 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 8:29 am to
quote:

Randy is a national champ now got to be him


Not a chance he said he was basically done with this board
Posted by rebelrouser
Columbia, SC
Member since Feb 2013
10573 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:52 am to
quote:

we at least know Dart is talented as hell and Luke is, if nothing, solid.


I thought Luke had the lead? In any event, i think the winner of that competition will be fine for us. I worry about our pass rush and lb's. Also, do we have the personnel to run the weird D that brought us some sucsess last year.
Posted by arsewipe
USA
Member since Jan 2021
93 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:59 am to
If season started tomorrow Luke would be our QB.

that being said the ceiling is substantially higher with Dart IMO. From an arm strength perspective he can stretch the field way more than Luke can
Posted by Insideradvantage
Member since Oct 2014
6868 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 9:25 pm to
Sounds like we are about to lose Perkins.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
3725 posts
Posted on 7/14/22 at 10:39 pm to
Hopefully it’s just a cry for help :(
Posted by Rebel Land Shark
Member since Jul 2013
30162 posts
Posted on 7/15/22 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Sounds like we are about to lose Perkins.


No we can't lose Bunkie
Posted by arsewipe
USA
Member since Jan 2021
93 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 10:35 am to
4 star EDGE Jamarious Brown from Moss Point committed last night.

As of now, we have Suntarine Perkins (#1 player in state), Brown, Brycen Sanders, and Marcel Reed just got bumped to a 4 star. I expect Perkins will be a 5 star at some point, especially if he decommits. Quality is there, now just need quantity, but if we have learned anything I'm expecting a more portal heavy class. Hopefully though, last year's season/recent momentum in recruiting will allow us to be more HS focused. we REALLY need to focus on the NIL aspect of things b/c bigger schools are going to try to pick some of these kids off
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6868 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 4:03 pm to
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Hopefully though, last year's season/recent momentum in recruiting will allow us to be more HS focused.


Why? HS kids take years to develope and half end up transferring. Take a transfer kid who is already developed, more likely to contribute day 1, and isn't likely to transfer a second time.

Today's college football is about reloading rather than rebuilding. In today's college football, that means transfer kids.
This post was edited on 7/30/22 at 4:42 pm
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64454 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Take a transfer kid who is already developed, more likely to contribute day 1, a


Transfer kids aren't "likely to contribute day 1".

Chance Campbell took nearly half the season to hit his stride. You can't build a team mainly focused on transfers. That's sunk a lot of coaches in the history of this sport. Jackie Sherrill first comes to mind.

You need high school kids as a foundation. If you're successful enough as a program and honest with the kid during his recruitment, he's far more likely to stay and be a major contributor for 2+ seasons.
Posted by OleVaught14
Member since Jun 2019
6868 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 8:05 pm to
quote:

Transfer kids aren't "likely to contribute day 1".


Far more likely than any HS kid.

quote:

You can't build a team mainly focused on transfers. That's sunk a lot of coaches in the history of this sport. Jackie Sherrill first comes to mind.


Those were kids who had to sit a year and were transferring (generally) from a larger program where they couldn't start. It's completely different now with immediate eligibility and legit conference all-americans transferring.

quote:

you're successful enough as a program and honest with the kid during his recruitment, he's far more likely to stay and be a major contributor for 2+ seasons.


Disagree with you here - most kids want to play immediately. And with immediate transfer eligibility, they are far more likely now to transfer rather than ride the bench for 2 years and compete for a starting role their junior year.

In my opinion, immediate eligibility for transfers changed everything.
Posted by pankReb
Defending National Champs Fan
Member since Mar 2009
64454 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 8:51 pm to
quote:


Those were kids who had to sit a year and were transferring (generally) from a larger program where they couldn't start. I


No...Jackie tried to build a program off Juco stars because they were already developed.

Until a team manages to win one with primarily transfers as their star players, you don't have any evidence to stand on. There is FAR too many benefits to having players in the program since their high school season.

quote:


Transfer kids aren't "likely to contribute day 1".


Far more likely than any HS kid.


well yeah....no shite. But an upper classment transfer is only going to take a minimum of half a season to fully gel and perform to expectations. Whereas, a kid in his 3rd year of the system will have FAR more of an advantage going into his Junior season.

quote:

Disagree with you here - most kids want to play immediately.


Where are freshmen going to play immediately? If they're good enough to play at a freshman at a major program, then they can come to play immediately for us as well. We aren't Alabama where 5*'s ride the bench.

You can absolutely patch holes in places that prior recruiting failed with transfers....but you won't go far with a program full of them. This isn't like Madden where the players are robots. They take time to develop.

Hell....even Brady took nearly an entire season to fully acclimate to the Bucs.
This post was edited on 7/30/22 at 8:53 pm
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
Member since Jun 2011
68437 posts
Posted on 7/30/22 at 9:50 pm to
Agree with pank. Transfers are great but if you rely on them too much, it’s eventually going to bite you in the arse. It’s what destroyed Sherril at State
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